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11. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting tway

This brings up an interesting question: When will pop music up and die? I mean, Disco bit the dust, so at what point in time will that thump-thump-repeat-repeat, empty, vapid nonsense become passé? Ever?

When recordcompanies can't earn enough money, to cover their expenses. (so if you haven't already: start downloading)

12. Posted by GBouchard (Inactive 18 posts) 8y

Disco didn't die it just evolved into other garbage. Sorry to all the Pop fans out there for this next comment. But simple disco backround melodies are all over poppy hiphop songs. If you ignore the heavy bass and the lyrics often it sounds like Mother Goose wrote these melodies

13. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting GBouchard

You hit the nail right on the head Herr Bert!
It's sad that our children wont enjoy music in it's free form as we did. I should quit playing guitar and learn how to lipsing and dance at the same time. Maybe then i'll understand the otherside of this discussion. I'd sure be an ugly Brittany Spears though!!!! YIKES!

I think that the new generation has an even more free form of charing music. We used to make tapes, then CD, and now they share mp3's. There is a lot of good music and bands around.

The more people download, the less recordcompanies earn and the less so called artists earn. (I mean peopl who can only do their trick in the studio). In the end their will always be a demand for real musicians. So continue practising scales and harmonies.

14. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 8y

Quoting tway

This brings up an interesting question: When will pop music up and die? I mean, Disco bit the dust, so at what point in time will that thump-thump-repeat-repeat, empty, vapid nonsense become passé? Ever?

Pop music will never die....too bad. Don't forget that "pop" stands for "popular"....it may be tripe, but it's popular tripe (doesn't make it any better of course....). It's really up to people to make their own choices rather than to be told that New Kids on the Block (or any such reincarnation) is actually good music.

Though that does rather put me on another track.........most people are comfortable being led to (intellectual) slaughter because it's easier than having to think. Scary, but true. I mean really: "We are living in a material world, and I am a material girl", or Oops, I did it again".......who really gives a crap?

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 18, 2008, at 1:12 PM by beerman ]

15. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting GBouchard

Disco didn't die it just evolved into other garbage. Sorry to all the Pop fans out there for this next comment. But simple disco backround melodies are all over poppy hiphop songs. If you ignore the heavy bass and the lyrics often it sounds like Mother Goose wrote these melodies

I always blame it on ABBA. (soulless music made on demand with a formula, first girl/boyband, and shoved through people's throat by the marketing dept. of the recordcompany)

16. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 8y

Quoting beerman

Quoting tway

This brings up an interesting question: When will pop music up and die? I mean, Disco bit the dust, so at what point in time will that thump-thump-repeat-repeat, empty, vapid nonsense become passé? Ever?

Pop music will never die....too bad. Don't forget that "pop" stands for "popular"....it may be tripe, but it's popular tripe

I had a teacher who called pop music the new opium for the people. I tend to agree.

Can we hire a hitman to kill pop music? Or maybe just give it a stern warning by breaking its legs?

17. Posted by GBouchard (Inactive 18 posts) 8y

I think that the new generation has an even more free form of charing music. We used to make tapes, then CD, and now they share mp3's.

What i meant by free form was not the method of music sharing but the music it self. If nothing changes music will no longer be an artform in wich the artist is free to do as he or she wants. At least for the music that we hear on the radio. Unfortunatelly our childrens first experiences with music will be likely from the radio or television. I pray they hear original and new concepts to poke thier interest instead of recycled ideas that the Bigwigs deem profitable.

18. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

I have to say, I'm liking this discussion. Rene - sign me up for the revolution!

I agree with Rene and the obsolete record/CD store. Both Virgin Records and Tower Records have closed in Chicago. I have to say, I was sorely disappointed in Virgin Records as it was a very large store with little to offer musically. I could buy toys and action figures and clothing but little else. Tower Records, on the other hand, had been a "record store" icon in Chicago for a long time. (They're national so some stores are still in business.) Where I live, even the pathetic Sam Goody closed up leaving us with the devil (WalMart) and it's evil cousins (K-Mart and Shopko).

I do like the tape exchange idea and even a CD exchange idea as CDs are so easy to burn. Beerman and I used to make tape mixes for each other when we were dating. There were always some gems that turned us onto each other's tastes in music. Now, we tend to find our gems through movies - oddly enough. We'll hear something we like, find it on iTunes or somewhere else and then follow a band's lineage. Tito & Tarantula brought us to Chingon which brought us to Latin Playboys and Link Wray & The Wraymen.

Again, odd as it is, we watch a program on Sunday mornings (called Sunday Morning) and they have Bill Flanagan (VH1 VP - used to be with MTV) who gives music reviews every so often. I like Bill Flanagan. By watching a couple of weeks ago, I found out that Tom Petty has brought his original band (Mudcrutch) back together for a new CD. It's on my birthday list.

I'm sorry - I'm really old school. I like record stores. I don't want to download my music. I don't want to pay $15 for a CD of generic crap. I want a receiver that has phono jacks in the back and I want to buy vinyl.

Wow, you guys are on a roll - if I've just posted and it now is completely out of context - I'll try harder to keep up later.

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 18, 2008, at 1:32 PM by Isadora ]

19. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 8y

I miss music that makes that little place above your stomach flutter. For me, that's the place that's connected to your groove or mojo or rhythm or whatever you want to call it that makes you want to get up and dance. It's the plug that connects you to the music, to what it says, to the way it speaks--it makes you feel and, in feeling, lets you get the message its trying to get across.

Today's pop music is designed to make you forget, or tune out, or become one with the mass. It speaks of nothing, challenges nothing, sparks nothing but a shuffle-shuffle back and forth to the same beat all night long.

Every generation's music challenged limits. Beethoven was thought to send young girls into raptures of lust. Jazz was "Black people's" music and thought a gateway to drugs and booze and everything else. Elvis shocked with his flying pelvis. 60s peace music brought on a scare of hippies and anti-Americanism and drugs and... well, I guess it all relates back to sex. But anyway--it made people feel, deeply, passionately, about something.

But pop music? Maybe it's designed to lull people into a sense of emptiness so they get up and buy stuff to feel better.

20. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 8y

Quoting tway

I miss music that makes that little place above your stomach flutter. For me, that's the place that's connected to your groove or mojo or rhythm or whatever you want to call it that makes you want to get up and dance. It's the plug that connects you to the music, to what it says, to the way it speaks--it makes you feel and, in feeling, lets you get the message its trying to get across.

Today's pop music is designed to make you forget, or tune out, or become one with the mass. It speaks of nothing, challenges nothing, sparks nothing but a shuffle-shuffle back and forth to the same beat all night long.

Every generation's music challenged limits. Beethoven was thought to send young girls into raptures of lust. Jazz was "Black people's" music and thought a gateway to drugs and booze and everything else. Elvis shocked with his flying pelvis. 60s peace music brought on a scare of hippies and anti-Americanism and drugs and... well, I guess it all relates back to sex. But anyway--it made people feel, deeply, passionately, about something.

But pop music? Maybe it's designed to lull people into a sense of emptiness so they get up and buy stuff to feel better.

And YOU want 80s music at your wedding......sheesh......