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1. Posted by phileas (Respected Member 67 posts) 8y

On recent trip to the Perhentian Islands, Malaysia I was appalled to see travellers young and old depart the beach at the end of the day and leave their empty watter bottles, cigarette butts, plastic bags, ice cream wrappers and whatever else they 'couldn't be bothered' to carry 15 metres to the nearest bin.

There really is no excuse. You are lame, inconsiderate and should go and live in Taiwan or some such place where you can experience the real impact of pollution.

The draw of the Perhentians is the beautiful white sand beach, crystal clear waters, and abundant marine life. All that is kinda spoilt if you have to share the water with a Tesco carrier bag.

(And by the way, turtles think plastic bags are jelly fish and make them there dinner. I do not have to explain that this is a bad thing. Perhaps this selfish travellers should try it sometime.)

If you believe at all in sustainable travel, eco-tourism or whatever you want to call it, it begins with you and your actions. It really doesn't matter 2 jots if you meet a local on a bus, eat some weird and wonderful sreet market titbit if the footprint you leave behind is pollution. We make our mark on a place whether we like it or not with airplane fuel damage to the stratosphere, upsetting local econmies etc but no excuse for something as simple as this.

Its not hard - pick it up and put it in the bin!

2. Posted by bwiiian (Travel Guru 768 posts) 8y

well said. It is disgusting the way some people throw their shit on the floor, expecting some guy on minimum wage to pick it up for them. Spoilt little mummy's boys who have never done a days work in their lives.

3. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 8y

I was visiting this gorgeous waterfall just on the north edge of Chiang Mai in Thailand, where locals come to sit by the water for a couple of hours - and leave, just abandoning their empty drink bottles and food wrappers and all their other trash, right there at the edge of the 'unspoiled' nature.
And it was me and an Australian friend getting so disgusted with it that we collected six plastic bags full of rubbish to carry out for fifty meters to the nearest trash cans.

Unthinking people littering can be found in any culture, everywhere in the world. :(

4. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1992 posts) 8y

I feel that fast food vendors need to take much more responsibility for the problem. Here in Oregon (one of the USA's most beautiful states) our landscape is constantly covered in food wrappers, and it certainly appears that youth and the poor are often the culprits in the problem.

5. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 8y

On the bus the other day, I saw a guy get on, show the driver his trensfer, then drop it on the bus floor. I don't get it--where do these people think the trash ends up? It's like the old addage: Don't sh*t where you live. And we live in the world at large.

6. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 8y

For the most part, i would have to say that most of the travellers I have met have been the eco-conscious ones. I don't think i saw a single backpacker littering on my travels. Locals on the other hand didn't seem to care too much. Same in Ireland - I mean, we are actually pretty good there - but you are more likely to see some local idiot throwing something out their car window than a tourbus of Americans or Germans leaving any real mark on the place.

There just needs to be stricter fines imposed. I hate the idea of a Nanny State (and Ireland is fast becoming one), but it's a sad fact that there are just so many inconsiderate ignorant uncaring people out there destroying our quality of life, that tougher measures have to be imposed.

It's drives me absolutely crazy. Even with all the warnings and predictions about global warming, how can the human race still continue to stick their head in the sand?

It's kind of depressing how essentially selfish the human race as a whole has become.

7. Posted by phileas (Respected Member 67 posts) 8y

Don't give up samsara - it's not over yet and there's still good left in people, I can feel it :)

Actually another aspect of this to chuck into the mix is where the rubbish actually goes to when we do bin it properly in these remote places....

  • In the case of the perhentians, they gather up the bags, attach them to these floating rafts that sit anchored off shore waiting for the weekly pickup. Quite what happens when there's a storm or the lashings come undone is unthinkable.

  • I took a 3 day boat trip through Komodo national park yt when we arrived in ou destination, there was no rubbish to dispose of - a miracle!

yes it is true, SE Asia is slightly lacking (a sweeping generalisation I know) in awareness of environmental issues but I say if we're going to import western culture, why not bring the re-use/re-cycle bit along for the ride.

8. Posted by Lachesis (Budding Member 26 posts) 8y

Imagime if you asked those people, the selfish, ignorant, uneducated ones to RECYCLE their rubish! Ha!

9. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 8y

I smoke or used to smoke, coz it cool and it makes you feel cool. I can be shallow.

But I would want to put people who smoke on the beach in Gas Chambers, packed with a mountain of cigarettes, where they should smoke themselves to death in two days or they will be fed to the sharks of some Malay marine park.

I think HUMAN RIGHTS is over rated. Why give any compassion to imbicile tourist who are doing irreperable damage to the ecosystem.

Picture this: You are on a beach, thanking god that after a year of working in a filthy city, you are now in this paradise island rejuvinating, and embracing good health. THEN SOMEONE who thinks she is more sexy if she lights a stick of cigrettes 5 meters from where the waters kiss the shore, starts to fill the air with poison. If anyone decides to smash her head with a coconut, it should constitute self defense. That person should even get a medal for doing his part in saving the environment.

I hate cigarette butts on the beach! Its not that I am health conscious. I hang out in BARS and I used to smoke. But these people who smoke on the beach are most probably the same people who will leave the plastic bottles in the Amazon. So they really need to be terminated by public execution.

TAKE WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR. I would want them to die. I'd just lobby for their hands to be chopped off.

10. Posted by Rraven (Travel Guru 5924 posts) 8y

we were on a 5 day amazon cargo boat trip, we saw a lot of locals throwing their rubbish overboard at various parts of the journey, there was a small group of foreigners and we were all shocked and saddened. Between us we collected all our rubbish and took it away to put in bins when we got off the boat, what we then witnessed was local refuse collectors carrying the bins to the riverside and throwing it in.............yes you need to take the rubbish away but you can't always control where it ends up...........