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1. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Email account one, email 2, work email, spam email. Blog site, personal websites, banking, online photos, online storage, memberships let alone social networking?!! And of course ATM cards?!!

Yes I know one should leave all this behind when on the road. But I have been on the road about 4 years now and am in undated with passwords. I typically go to my photo storage site, and automatically click forgot password. Too many to remember. I try to keep a generic password for low security stuff like. But generally try to keep things changed due to using public computers.

I see these password managers around and wonder about them. Keep all your passwords in one location. The idea does not bode well for me.

Anyone else have similar problems? I imagine its a question of memory?!

2. Posted by Ghani (Budding Member 3 posts) 8y

Please give some idea how to save password in this position.

Any one have ................................................:(

3. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4834 posts) 8y

What I do myself: bring my laptop. (Where my browser encrypts and remembers all my non-essential passwords, so that I only need to remember the really important passwords and one password to decrypt everything in the browser.)

What you could do without laptop: remember one strong password, and change it based on something unique to every site to it to still have different passwords.
So, for example: strong password = k!jQ#6Hy. unique site bit = first two letters of domain name, with second capitalized. Final password for travellerspoint = k!jQ#6HytR, final password for facebook = k!jQ#6HyfA, etc.

Obviously don't do something like that for things you really care about, as someone who knows one passwords can still guess the others ("things you really care about" shouldn't include your bank, as you never should do internet banking on public computers at all, but it'd be good to have something completely different for just your main email).

You can make the above method stronger by remembering a sequence to the sites, and having the location of the unique site bit change based on that. Say you always log in first to Travellerspoint, then to Facebook, then to Twitter, etc, then you could have the following passwords:
travellerspoint: tRk!jQ#6Hy
facebook: kfA!jQ#6Hy
twitter: k!tWjQ#6Hy

[ Edit: Edited on Sep 17, 2008, at 1:31 AM by Sander ]

4. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Wow, that's quite a system. Thanks sander.

Sequencing the sites makes sense I better make a start decoding and then recoding some passwords then!

5. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 8y

I typed up a big long but vague explanation, but then realized that even with being vague to not give anything away, I was still probably giving too much away.

So instead I will just say that I use mnemonic devices, like you would remember the lines in the scale with Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge (egbdf), you can come up with passwords that aren't in dictionaries in that way. Obviously you need to have some capital letters, numbers and symbols to pass any sort of strength test, but if you develop a system for it, then it's not hard.

You then just need to remember a key to the password, for example my TP password is "fudge," and then you know that the password is based on the Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge mnemonic.

Off topic, but somewhat related, I love what HSBC does with internet passwords. They never ask you for the whole password, just parts of it - so if your password was hsbcismybank, they would only ask you for the 2nd, 4th, and 2nd of last letters (scn). Great way to beat the key loggers. The 3 positions they ask for rotates, so next time they might ask you for the 3rd, 7th and last letters.

Greg

6. Posted by amn36 (Budding Member 6 posts) 8y

Do you have a phone with an SD Card or a USB stick you can carry around with you? If so then why not just store all the passwords on that? Use truecrypt to make sure it's secure and just remember one password for truecrypt.

7. Posted by dr.pepper (Travel Guru 316 posts) 8y

Quoting GregW

I typed up a big long but vague explanation, but then realized that even with being vague to not give anything away, I was still probably giving too much away.

So instead I will just say that I use mnemonic devices, like you would remember the lines in the scale with Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge (egbdf), you can come up with passwords that aren't in dictionaries in that way. Obviously you need to have some capital letters, numbers and symbols to pass any sort of strength test, but if you develop a system for it, then it's not hard.

Oddly enough, I learned it as Every Good Boy Deserves Fruit. In retrospect, yours makes more sense. Fruit isn't much of a reward for being a good boy!

Anyway, back on topic...

I have a similar system to Sander, although not as strong. I'd definitely suggest going with his idea!

Eric

8. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

Thanks for all those suggestions folks.

I think I will go for mixture of Sanders sequence and GregW's mnemonic methods.

I use a very simple version of the sequence one now, but find myself loosing track, the mnemonic add on will help :)

I don't keep anything on my flash or mobile cards as if they get stolen it's over. Virus' on public computers don't help either. The laptop covers that, but without it I resort to the basics again.

I think it was sander that also mention something about using email forwarding to another account just to read mails in insecure places. I tried that out for a while with inbox.com but found it was not able to filter from more than one address too well. Maybe I will have to surrender and open a google mail account... opps that's another password