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1. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

I doubt if there will be much argument here on TP regarding this ?, but why do these high-rollers insist on tipping regardless of service received or where they are. Personally, I only tip in countries where tipping is the custom, and then I will only tip "well" when I receive exceptional service. How about you?

In the USA, I normally tip 18% at restaurants.

2. Posted by joffre (Respected Member 157 posts) 8y

I don't know if it's because I'm an Aussie, but I don't recall ever tipped anyone...

3. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 8y

Quoting Daawgon

I doubt if there will be much argument here on TP regarding this ?, but why do these high-rollers insist on tipping regardless of service received or where they are. Personally, I only tip in countries where tipping is the custom, and then I will only tip "well" when I receive exceptional service. How about you?

In the USA, I normally tip 18% at restaurants.

Why 18%? It's so difficult to calculate. Why not 10% or 20%?

4. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

Quoting james

Why 18%? It's so difficult to calculate. Why not 10% or 20%?

I agree, but that seems to be the safe rate in my area - if not to be labeled a cheap skate. That's for dinner, but at breakfast/lunch I feel safe leaving less. I still will leave nothing at all if the food is foul or the service non-existent. But please answer my original question.

5. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 8y

This issue is a regular source of arguments between my boyfriend and me when we are travelling! He insists on tipping in places where it is not the custom, and also even when we have received bad service. Or at least he tries to, as I normally put my foot down. There is no point tipping for bad service as it defeats the object of tipping, and in countries where it is not the custom there is just no need to tip at all. He says he wants to tip as he knows those people are worse off than him. (he is far from a high-roller by the way, quite the opposite! :))

6. Posted by TLWH (Travel Guru 516 posts) 8y

As a rule I do not tip, ever.

However I have made exceptions whether it was custom or not. For example If the waiter, is exceptionally nice and goes out of their way and adds to the enjoyment of a meal.

The other day I did the unthinkable and tipped a local taxi man. Without asking he helped me carry a load of things from the car to the door of a hostel. Then turned and tried to leave. For once a taxi man that was not trying to cheat. I chased after him, and gave him something. He was very humble.

The same in Pakistan with an auto rickshaw struggling to find a hostel, we agreed a price but it took ages to find the place. In the end they had no room and it was late. The guy went out of this way, so I tipped him, again when he did not ask for anything.

What I do notice, and this is not meant to offend, but I am now at the stage at not wanting to have a sit down meal with North Americans at a restaurant due to the tipping thing. Whenever I go in a group my budget goes out the window, and if I refuse to tip I get 'the look' and occasional comment, which spoils the night.

This is usually countered by bringing a well traveled Dutch, German or French along with you who has similar feelings. They are usually nicely vocal about telling the tipsters what to do with the looks and comments! ( again no offense to anyone!)

7. Posted by joffre (Respected Member 157 posts) 8y

Just out of interest, which countries expect tips to be given?

8. Posted by chestwig (Budding Member 14 posts) 8y

Tipping is something I only personally do if i feel the service was exceptional or food was especial good. REcently I have been on a road trip in the states and was so annoyed to find it the accepted norm that you tip 18%???

I used to leave $2 despite the cost of the meal and drink and do a runner and not go back to that restraunt. Some may call this shamefull but as a backpacker I just can not afford to tip 18% ever time I eat out.
The one occasion I did eat in the same place twice I had a 20% service charge added to my bill as the watress most have remembered me from the previous day. I thought it was such a cheek!

Some people go on that these people get a crap wage, but the way I see it is that they would make enought money in tips if everyone just left $2 and not 18%. Also why should you have to pay more of a tip[ if you order something more expensive from the menu- its not like there will be a noticable difference in the service is there???
Correct me if I am wrong but there is some kind of as minimum wage in some states in USA now is there not?

9. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 8y

I too have never understood the idea of tipping for everything- if its the only way the staff get paid then why not just add the cost of paying them onto the prices and be done with it. If you're always expected to tip 18% (sounds a lot to me) then what does it matter whether the service is good or not.

Is it true that states you even tip in a bar? 18% on everything would be expensive, unless its all really cheap to start with. I've done bar work and its not difficult, its not the same kind of service as waiting tables. Surely they get a minimum wage at least.

Here in the UK, I would only tip if there is waiter service, not for like a pub meal. Say we went out to a proper restaurant (ie proper waiter service as opposed to pub food or canteen style) assuming we were happy with the service we would usually tip about 10% (more if exceptionally good). If it was a little cafe with waiter service and was only ordering tea/coffee and cake perhaps would just maybe round the change up to nearest pound. My boyfriend always tips taxi drivers, I don't unless theres a really nice friendly one. I don't think its expected.

10. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 8y

Quoting joffre

Just out of interest, which countries expect tips to be given?

The Philippines... But if the restaurant already has a service charge among other CHARGES... people should not tip.

The US in hotels, watch the film HOME ALONE.

What does Oprah say about it?

Tipping is egotistical! You feel superior. I don't tip because I assume that a person is nice because he is grateful that he has a job and 3 million people in his countries is unemployed. I also hate KISS ASSERS, so if a hotel claims to provide IMPECCABLE SERVICE, will they kiss my ass literally in the name of Good service.

"When the tipping stops, the kiss assing stops too." Do you tip in MC. DONALDS, I'm sure the staff there burn more calories than the waiters in some posh restaurant.

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