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71. Posted by Ladymacwil (Full Member 170 posts) 8y

Thanks for your reply and very thoughtful answer.

I think that is really the point; was your experience "enhanced" as opposed to; "Well, I really should ...." regardless...

There are times I would much rather give the "street performer" money over the non-respondent waiter. And not like that happens a lot, (the non-respondent waiter). BTW, I completely agree with you, in that you do NOT punish the wait staff for the kitchen's fault. I must say, I've seen too many people who will refuse to tip because... A. "I waited too long for my food." B. " I ordered a medium burger and it came out too rare or too well done." That Is NOT the servers fault! We all know, when a server comes out and apologizes for how long the food was served, for example, they are still attentive and trying their best. I have no problem with that, and unfortunately, some do. I don't understand that., but to NOT tip your waiter for the kitchen's fault? Most times your waiter is distressed and not feeling not all that comfortable themselves. I tend to recognize the difference and tip the wait staff regardless, as long as they DO tend to you. Sometimes, we will tip even more. because we knew the waiter was in such a posiition.

I think it comes back to, as you said, "Did this enhance my experience? Or did you do something to detract from that experience?' But don't kill the messenger, so to speak....

BTW, I really should not say this...but... when I met my husband, I noticed he recieved a lot of "comp" drinks. I at first thought; "Damn! They must really like you!" He will tip at least half of what the "comped", ( meaning "complimentary) drinks are worth. He always comes out ahead!

So those who think a tip does not matter.....It certainly does in the States!

72. Posted by Ladymacwil (Full Member 170 posts) 8y

BTW, I was thinking I needed $150,000 for my new wardrobe...

Any American taxpayers out there who pretend they shop at Wallmart, (Which I NEVER do), want to pay for me and my familiy's clothing?

I know this has nothing to do with this thread. But talk about "tipping"...No...we just call that "perks" Talk about bad service!

LadyMacWilly ^..^ ~

73. Posted by Springs1 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 8y

Ladymacwil

I've seen too many people who will refuse to tip because... A. "I waited too long for my food.

I didn't refuse to tip, but did lower the tip when waiting too long for my food was our server's fault. 3 times servers FORGOT to put orders in. That means we waited longer for our food due to THEM, NOT the kitchen staff. Also, if the server waits to put the order in, that delays the food from getting cooked or prepared also.

All I am saying is, you cannot say it's always the kitchen staff's fault for food taking too long, because it is sometimes the server's fault.

I ordered a medium burger and it came out too rare or too well done.

It is possible a server can put an order into the computer wrong by pressing the wrong button, which has happened to me and my husband before just to let you know that even this type of situation CAN be the server's fault as well.

74. Posted by Sunniebgi (Full Member 67 posts) 8y

Quoting Ladymacwil

BTW, I was thinking I needed $150,000 for my new wardrobe...

Any American taxpayers out there who pretend they shop at Wallmart, (Which I NEVER do), want to pay for me and my familiy's clothing?

I know this has nothing to do with this thread. But talk about "tipping"...No...we just call that "perks" Talk about bad service!

LadyMacWilly ^..^ ~

As an american taxpayer, I do shop at Walmart and Kmart, Dollar General etc.. and have the clothes and goods to prove it.. but I do shop at other places..(what does that have to do with tipping.. thats just good money saving shopping).

Tipping is not a job perk unless you get full pay for the job in the first place.. .. people who get paid under the minimum wage, because their job is seein as working for less than minimum and tips. ie, waitstaff, etc.. get tips.. and they work hard because it's TOO INSURE PROPER SERVICE.

I don't tip street performers because they aren't providing a service for me.. they are just trying to make a buck on the street. I do tip bellman at hotels, skycaps at airports, but hate being TOLD I have to tip.. but I do if the service is good. Having been there and done that, I have an appreciation for what it takes to "wait on other people" in many jobs so I TIP when I see fit.

75. Posted by devinair (Budding Member 8 posts) 8y

I only started to pay tips when I came to the US. We usually pay 15% on tips. In Malaysia, tips are not expected and if you offer them some may take them and some may not. We use to pay by cash in Malaysia at smaller restaurants so any change we get may be a dollar or two we will leave behind. It is not the custom, its more of your choice or given as a token of appreciation if deemed necessary. When I stopped over in Taipei, Taiwan I offered the aiport employee some money for pushing my mother in-law in the wheelchair, he not only refused but also seemed offended. So, I think you have to watch what is the norm in the country before you offer any tips. Even if you want to offer any money at restaurants or open air stalls, I think it is okay to leave some small change behind.

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 29, 2008, at 10:25 AM by devinair ]

76. Posted by Sunniebgi (Full Member 67 posts) 8y

as a waitress, many many years ago, I welcomed tips.. the restaurants I worked in paid peanuts for salaries (cause they can) so I worked very hard for the tips I got. owners and managers were amazed some nights at some of the amounts of tips I would bring in.. You work hard, you do a good job, you get good tips. when I went to work as a passenger service agent for an airline, one of my jobs was to help passengers coming off airplanes, to the point of helping them with luggage and getting them outside the building. When offered tips, I refused (unlike some of my workmates) as the job I did was part of what the company was paying me to do. Yes sometimes I would go out of my way to do more than needed, but felt it was part of my job. To me, it's a matter of choice.. to tip or not. in any country.. if it's taken fine, if not, thats the choice of the person receiving it (or not)

77. Posted by amyandwim (Respected Member 2 posts) 8y

I think that highrollers tip regardless of the country they are in for the same reason that some people speak their native language regardless of what country they're in. If you are dutchman in Turkey, the chances of the person next to you responding to your,"goede morgen" are very slim. There are just not that many dutch speaking people on earth. So, why, prey tell, are you speaking at them in dutch?! You shouldn't question these type of people. There's no way to find out what they're thinking.

78. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

Amyandwim - Great blog you have - if I were only 40 years younger I might just make the same trip! I love cycling too.

79. Posted by mcounsel (Budding Member 5 posts) 8y

I have always found this an interesting contention amongst travellers.
i hate tipping, and i will refuse to do it, unless the waitress has done a very good job or is extremely hot.
Whilst travelling I have often been pressured into tipping, because i am told that they don't earn enough money or make minimum wage, which i have just found out is incorrect. If they don't make the required 8% in tips under the IRS's guidelines then the onus is places onto the proprietor to make up the shortfall. so why does everyone still tip? and another thing if they want you to tip a certain percentage, why not just put the price up>

80. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 1993 posts) 8y

Quoting mcounsel

I have always found this an interesting contention amongst travellers.
i hate tipping, and i will refuse to do it, unless the waitress has done a very good job or is extremely hot.
Whilst travelling I have often been pressured into tipping, because i am told that they don't earn enough money or make minimum wage, which i have just found out is incorrect. If they don't make the required 8% in tips under the IRS's guidelines then the onus is places onto the proprietor to make up the shortfall. so why does everyone still tip? and another thing if they want you to tip a certain percentage, why not just put the price up>

My kind of traveler, Mcounsel - At last, an honest tipper!