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1. Posted by sarah gill (First Time Poster, 1 posts) 8 Oct '08 16:22

Hi everyone I hope you can help. My best friend Anton joined your group and went on his travels to Pattaya. On 6th October he had a bike accident and died from head inuries. I wanted to see if anyone had met Anton and if anyone can give me any information as to what happened. If you cant then all I ask is that if you are travelling to Pattaya please be safe and wear helmets if you to chose to ride the roads. Pattaya has a huge amount of deaths on the roads and whilst travelling is great fun please keep your witts about you. I have spent the last week with Antons family and the grief is not worth one night of madness ... if anyone has any information on Anton please let me know ... if not and you are travelling there be safe and dont go on the bikes ... its not worth your life.

2. Posted by dr.pepper (Moderator, 316 posts) 8 Oct '08 21:43

Hey Sarah,

I'm really sorry to hear that. This must be a really hard time for you, as well as Anton's family. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

I've had a look for members called Anton (I work for TP) and found a few, so I'll message you privately about that.

Eric

3. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru, 3536 posts) 9 Oct '08 10:58

Sarah,
I was very sorry to read about Anton's motorcycle accident and dying from his injuries. I lived in Pattaya for 10 winters and owned a small motorbike rental business for several years. I know how dangerous riding a bike in Pattaya can be. Every ex-pat in Pattaya I know has a motorbike horror story to tell. You are literally taking your life in your hands everytime you are on the road. I have been warning TP members for several years about the terrible risks one takes when renting and riding a bike in SEA. I will add your story to my posts when members ask about renting bikes in SEA. I am very sorry for your loss.

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM by vegasmike6 ]

4. Posted by konvict (Budding Member, 6 posts) 13 Oct '08 00:21

I dont get this........why is it considered so deadly dangerous to ride a bike in pattya.....is there sumthiun special about this place.....ridin a bike is just as dangerous as it could get irrespective of where ever you are....

5. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru, 3536 posts) 13 Oct '08 09:25

Quoting konvict

I dont get this........why is it considered so deadly dangerous to ride a bike in pattya.....is there sumthiun special about this place.....ridin a bike is just as dangerous as it could get irrespective of where ever you are....

Sunny,
Riding a motorbike is dangerous no matter where you are. Anyone has been to Koh Samui will see dozens of wounded warriors walking around. Most simply fall off their bikes but some got hit by other drivers.

Pattaya is dangerous because of the heavy traffic and hundreds of bike rental shops. Nobody will rent a bike in BKK, it has good public transport and horrible traffic. But thousands do rent bikes in Pattaya and zip around daily. Inexperienced riders blended in with Thai drivers that do not follow the rules of the road make for a dangerous situation. Most visitors should avoid renting a motorbike and use taxis or public transport. Cheaper and much safer.

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7. Posted by dr.pepper (Moderator, 316 posts) 14 Oct '08 04:02

I've removed the last post because it was off-topic and, frankly, somewhat insensitive. I don't see anything wrong with the title of this post. If anyone feels the need to have a discussion about how safe Pattaya is for motorcyclists compared to other places in Thailand, feel free to start another thread.

Eric

8. Posted by stoneman (Respected Member, 212 posts) 24 Nov '08 04:18

I am very sorry to hear that Anton's accident ended so tragically. It takes me back to Legian Road Bali in 1986 when I attempted to overtake another bike on the inside resulting in myself flying over the handlebars at speed. Fortunately I landed on gravel though could easily have been a brick wall. I was fortunate that a trained nursed witnessed my accident and tended to my wounds. The point I wish to make is that it does not matter whether the rider is at fault or someone else the fact is riding a bike in Asia is a RISK. I can only advise others to think twice before they decide to rent a bike. I concur with Vegasmike's advice. I would never hire a bike in BKK, Pattaya, Phnom Penn. Affordable payable transport is freely available. I hope to visit HCMC and Hanoi in the future and I will not hire a bike. As much as I enjoy renting a bike to riding around (Scotland, Corfu, Santorini, Ios, Rhodos, Koh Samui, Phuket) you could not pay me enough to ride around heavy traffic places throughout Asia. As much as I'm saddend writing this post I feel compelled to share my experience.
To any traveller out there thinking about hiring a bike, please think twice about the environment. If you can visit your destinations by organised transport then I strongly recommend you do so. I can not express my feeling any stronger.

9. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member, 454 posts) 24 Nov '08 18:07

It seems that most people on this thread are admitting to being inadequate drivers.

personally if I'm going to drive around Bangkok, Pattaya etc, I'll do it myself....why on earth would I want to rely on some partially trained nit-wit, who thinks the picture of a goddess on his dash will save him (and me) from accidents?????

10. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru, 3536 posts) 25 Nov '08 17:24

Wil,
I have been to Pattaya over 12 times and ridden a motorbike (MB) every trip. Went down a few times, lost some skin, but nothing serious. I have 2 friends that now live in Pattaya and own cars. I ride with them w/o fear. But, I would NOT ride a MB in BKK. If you want to drive/ride in BKK, good luck to you. I will pass. I take public transport when there. I agree many of the taxi & bus drivers do not drive safely all of the time, but that argument won't fly when you take the BTS Skytrain or the MRT.

I know Pattaya well enough I will take the chance to ride a MB when there. But I certainly do not advise any TP member to rent a MB when in Thailand unless they are experienced riders. The downside far outweighs the fun of riding a MB around the LOS. My 2 cents.