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21. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

3. Also it took me a while to find the link to map my photos.. after upload it sems that I have to go through control panel, my map, map photos? Some direct link to map my photos after an upload, or at least from "my photos" view, might be useful...

Well, you're quite right on that one. The main integrated way that is currently available is by using the Location field when editing the information for your photos. That will geotag the photo to that location. But that will only work with locations that are already in our database, not for new ones that you want to plot accurately. For that, you would indeed need to head to the mapping area. If you have however set up a custom location in the mapping area, then it *should* be available to you in the location field as well.

Maybe add a fifth dedicated tab to go directly to the photo mapping view? Might make it more discoverable to a few more people, too...

22. Posted by luzian (Full Member 36 posts) 7y

Quoting luzian

3. Also it took me a while to find the link to map my photos.. after upload it sems that I have to go through control panel, my map, map photos? Some direct link to map my photos after an upload, or at least from "my photos" view, might be useful...

Actually one more question here, it seems that some pictures are automatically mapped, probably based on the trip locations for that date? ie 2 of 6 that I just uploaded show up on the map without me doing anything. How exactly is that done... particularly in this case I have two trip stops on one day (Belgrade and Novi Sad.. Novi Sad being a longer stop beginning on the day I visited Belgrade), and one of the Belgrade pictures seems to have attached itself to Novi Sad? Actually on the pictures overview I see they say "mapped to Serbia, Serbia", but in the map show up with Novi Sad. How is this determined?

Ahh you guys are too fast... already some new answers before my post above :) (and probably more while I type this.. )

Quoting Peter

The main thing with adding anything to the blogs is considerations about how it works in all the different designs. Each needs testing and then on top of that, there are the custom ones, so it can end up being a headache even making the seemingly most innocuous changes.

Of course I understand that problem.. I'm only asking from a user's point of view, but of course the technical implementation is an entirely different matter.. even if something sounds like a good idea, it might be too much effort to realise or not even technically possible. That's why I say I'm asking silly questions, because of course I don't see the technical implications of what I'm asking...

Quoting Sam I Am

Luzian, would you prefer a link to your full map from your navigation or an actual small map like in Sanders example? For some reason I think the latter was supposed to be part of the latest blogs update we just did, but never actually made it live... I can't for the life of me remember why not either.

Well my preferred option would be a map (you see I want maps everywhere ;) ), either on the navigation side or even just above the blog entries (giving a similar visual impression as having it at the top of each blog entry, but without the need of adding it by hand every time). Of course I understand that not everybody would want this (load times concern, preferred design etc), so making it an option would be an option. The alternative would be the link, to provide at least a way for the visitors to quickly see that there's an overview map available. But for the moment I think I could deal with the map per blog entry, either leaving it at the top or moving it to the right with Sander's CSS script.

There were some requests recently for adding in an 'about' page for members that would be more along the lines of a link together with the Home, TOC and Subscribe links. That's another option which would of course be a bit lighter in terms of load times.

That would of course be great too.

Cheers, Luzian

23. Posted by luzian (Full Member 36 posts) 7y

Quoting luzian

Actually one more question here, it seems that some pictures are automatically mapped, probably based on the trip locations for that date? ie 2 of 6 that I just uploaded show up on the map without me doing anything. How exactly is that done... particularly in this case I have two trip stops on one day (Belgrade and Novi Sad.. Novi Sad being a longer stop beginning on the day I visited Belgrade), and one of the Belgrade pictures seems to have attached itself to Novi Sad? Actually on the pictures overview I see they say "mapped to Serbia, Serbia", but in the map show up with Novi Sad. How is this determined?

Sorry I just noticed that they probably were mapped when I did an "edit", not during the original upload. Still slightly confusing for me though as I didn't change the field, and there's nothing that says that this field will map the picture. Btw what happens if I mapped a picture myself using exact coordinates, but then edit and save the location name again? eg have each picture of Belgrade at its exact location, and then save it again with Belgrade in the location.. would it overwrite the exact location?

[ Edit: Edited on Oct 22, 2008, at 6:33 AM by luzian ]

24. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 7y

You've edited things too swiftly for me to be able to trace back what happened, but basically the map tries to be intelligent based on matching dates (but - iirc - only for including/excluding a photo at all if its country matches; not with assigning to a specific destination), and groups things together if you're not zoomed in very far. (The display then says "photos at this or nearby destinations.)
A mapped photo without a specific location just gets placed in the mid-point of its country. When you're zoomed out, that might then be grouped together with a real destination which is nearby, causing the photo to appear to be located together with it.

25. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

Quoting luzian

3. Also it took me a while to find the link to map my photos.. after upload it sems that I have to go through control panel, my map, map photos? Some direct link to map my photos after an upload, or at least from "my photos" view, might be useful...

Well, you're quite right on that one. The main integrated way that is currently available is by using the Location field when editing the information for your photos. That will geotag the photo to that location. But that will only work with locations that are already in our database, not for new ones that you want to plot accurately. For that, you would indeed need to head to the mapping area. If you have however set up a custom location in the mapping area, then it *should* be available to you in the location field as well.

Just to be clear, that is not the easiest way to actually map photos, which is just by ticking each photo you want to map on your my photos page, then hitting edit and filling in the Location field. That is however currently the only way to map them really down to exact co-ordinates, although like Peter says, once you've done that once, you should be able to use the easy first option to then do the rest!

Peter, do we include lat/long by default if it's in the EXIF info? That would be neat :)

26. Posted by luzian (Full Member 36 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

Yes, a bug. If you log out and then back in again it should work. Once the currently active sessions have been cleared, this bug shouldn't happen again.

Cool that worked, thanks.

That will require some more investigation. I'd suggest maybe just hitting refresh - it's possible that there is some caching going on.

Refresh didn't help :( also closing browser/logging out.

The main integrated way that is currently available is by using the Location field when editing the information for your photos. That will geotag the photo to that location.

Yeah that's actually great now that I know it :) Maybe I should go back and read the user manual ;)

But that will only work with locations that are already in our database, not for new ones that you want to plot accurately. For that, you would indeed need to head to the mapping area.

Sure, I would expect that.. was just missing some direct way to go there.

Cheers Luzian

27. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Sam I Am

Peter, do we include lat/long by default if it's in the EXIF info? That would be neat :)

No, not lat/long at the moment, but we do include pre-populate the "Location" if that is provided in EXIF. It will need to match a location in the database to really work properly though.

28. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 7y

Quoting luzian

Btw what happens if I mapped a picture myself using exact coordinates, but then edit and save the location name again? eg have each picture of Belgrade at its exact location, and then save it again with Belgrade in the location.. would it overwrite the exact location?

Remapping the photo to an exact location originally would've created a second location (available only to you) also named Belgrade, but with those new exact coordinates. When you edit the photo and don't touch that field, it should retain that exact location. If you do change the field (say by removing the last "e" in Belgrade, the autocomplete will probably come up with multiple Belgrade options; the top one will be the center of town, the others will be the other exact locations you've created. (To distinguish them, you could rename the location from the map view to "Belgrade, [something street]" or similar. (I did the same with a photo taken in One Tree Hill, Auckland.))

29. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting luzian

Refresh didn't help :( also closing browser/logging out.

I think Sander's analysis was probably correct - that installing Flash 10 has in fact caused this to break, as the current version of uploader is in fact not compatible. And it looks really nasty, because upgrading to the new one would probably break the uploader for everyone still on Flash 9 by the looks of it. Argh..

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