hi everyone, the plan is to stay 1 month in eastern europe, i arrive april 1st to Prague and on may 2nd i have the ticket from Athens to Cairo, so i need 30 days to spend on too many cities i guess....
this is a plan:
prague 4 days
coatia (Dubrovnik 3 Zagreb 2) 5
greek islands 3
total : 30 days...
Any opinions? ideas???
What is the objective of your trip? See as many countries as possible? How are you traveling? By train?
How prepared are you to rough it?
Budapest, Serbia is a bit up the rough end. As for the Greek islands, the season just starts after Easter and it might not be in full swing yet. And the water won't be that warm for swimming.
Consider staying in Athens for more days and taking day mini-cruises to the nearby islands.
mm thxs for the reply,
the objective is to optimize the trip, try not to stay without doing anything, and visit many countries because i think i won't return in many years...i am 22 years old and i will be with 2 more friends, travelling by train...
i think i am well prepared, but i would like to have the itinerary ready before i leave, so i hope if someone have any tips or "musts" please let me know...
If you are trying to see as much as possible I think 3 days in Dubrovnik and 2 in zagreb are too much, compared with just 3 for Serbia and Montenegro. Dubrovnik is beautiful, but Zagreb is very similar to Belgrade, except Belgrade has much better party scene. Also, i would advise going through Bosnia and staying abit longer in serbia, particularly visiting the monasteries around Cacak in central Serbia. These two countries are quite different from the other you are planning to visit (except certain parts of Greece) and I think it would be interesting for you to see that.
As for roughing it, I am not sure I understand espap's comment. If you are looking for rough ends you will find them everywhere, but in my experience both Budapest and Serbia are fine and not rough at all.
with 2 more friends i guess we will be renting a car, somebody has done that??....is there parking problems in eastern european cities??
Renting a car is not always the best option because it is difficult to find companies that let you cross borders. If you do find one that allows this and lets you drop off the car in another country you will pay very steep fees for the service. Also there is a certain risk in driving a relatively new rented car around certain areas - non-local license plates can be a sign for "steal me". (There is a very good reason Germans do not like to travel by car to Poland.)
In addition train and bus travel are very cheap in Eastern Europe, so look carefully before you decide to go by rented car.
You can figure out costs for train travel by using www.jizdenka.cz
If you do decide to go by car get in contact with a used car dealer in Germany, Czech Republic or Poland who is exporting old used clunkers to Turkey, Russia or the Balkan states. Try to make a deal where you buy the car for say 500 EUR, but he installs the (export) licence plates and picks it up later, say in Istanbul. If you want to do that look into going to Berlin first before you hit Prague.
P.S: Could you pretty please fill out your profile? I like to know who I am talking to. Plus everybody here can give more detailed advice if they know your age, interests, languages you speak, your citizenship, countries you have visited before, your travel plans (are you on an RTW?), whether you like to travel with a tent or not, what is your budget/comfort rate, etc. etc. etc..
[ Edit: Edited on Nov 7, 2008, at 6:55 AM by t_maia ]
Spent some time last summer travelling around Eastern Europe. If you are planning on seeing as much as possible I'd shorten your stay in Vienna by a day (unless you love Art Galleries & Museums!!) and would skip Zagreb altogether - we couldn't wait to get out of it and the train we were on leaving was packed so think everyone else had the same idea!! That would give you a few more days to spend in Serbia/Montenegro or Athens.
ok thks i guess is too long in zagreb and i will consider more days in serbia/montenegro, i heard is beautiful...
help for the reply t_maia, very useful!
i will try to reconsider about renting a car, but it works very good when you travel based on your own schedule, the distances are relatively short so i hope there is no problem...
any more tips?? say good hostels, pubs, places, musts!!
i have to agree with maia: if youre going to eastern europe, dont rent a car. i read you want to stay at hostels, and since most of them (or all??) usually dont have private parking, it will be a pain to find a parking spot thats safe and not too expensive... i even have problems with it in vienna (and vienna is safe).
otherwise its a nice trip... im getting jelous
3 days is certainly to short for visiting Serbia and Belgrade. Belgrade is an ancient city with a rich history, in the best location in Europe, on the border of two civilizations, at the confluence of two rivers. There is a good atmosphere everywhere you go, as if everyone has found the ideal place to feel at his best. Belgrade`s charm is just irresistible. You have there a plenty of beautiful places to see, especially nightlife in Belgrade – see on snip Very exciting nightlife, friendly people, excellent domestic food and low prices make Belgrade an must to visit place in Europe. I had very pleasant experience with www.rentbeo.com.
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