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11. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

I couldn't agree with you more on several levels. And, it wasn't just the "kids" that didn't know GOP but also people our age who they interviewed. Now that one surprised me though it probably shouldn't have. Considering most people make their decisions about a candidate by the candidate's TV ads, it makes for a sad scenario. The ads say nothing other than the opponent is an asshole. Now there's covering the issues for an informed decision. But, I digress...

As for the "dumbing down" of the generations, it's also sad but true. The computer and internet can be very useful tools but they are used too frequently. Libraries brought in computers to allow access to the internet for those who didn't have access at home. The problem with that - library books are sitting on the shelves gathering dust. Though I understand the reasoning, I get disheartened when I read threads about only using online resources for researching destinations, looking for travel guides and not wanting to "clutter up their living space" with real books. Again, I understand it but we're book people and converted a small room into a library to hold all of our books. About 3 years ago, Freeport built a big new library and it's suffering from lack of use. The only part of the building that's used regularly is the computer room. Such is the way of the world, I'm afraid. I'm old so curmudgeony - my cell phone is never on, I don't text message unless absolutely necessary (which is not often) and I still use books to find information. I also know how to speak and spell. I'm expecting the Merrian-Webster Text Message Dictionary to be released soon - but it will only be available online.

And, now that I'm done pontificating, I shall wander off to mix the Bloody Marys and get ready for the Bears-Titans and Vikings-Packers games - both on at noon so it will be switching channels frequently.

12. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 8y

I watched the Packers lose and 'Da Bears' went down to defeat as well. I used to stop and see a friend that lived in Shawno, outside of Green Bay. I then started to follow the Packers more closely since I had watched their pre-season practices and toured Lambeau Field. I also pull for the Pittsburgh Steelers as a good friend is from that area. Of course I also root for the Patriots from my days on Martha's Vineyard. But this is typical in Vegas. We do not have any team here or closeby. Add in that most of our residents are from somewhere else, and you have a very mixed bag of football fans. Many of our sports bars support one team, usually one the owner is from. That way you can go to a bar and be surrounded with fellow fans of your favorite team. They always offer cheap food & drinks during the game. Way more fun than staying at home and watching by yourself.

13. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

Quoting vegasmike6

I watched the Packers lose and 'Da Bears' went down to defeat as well.

Well, the day was a good one for me because I'm a Viking fan but poor Kris was not a happy camper with the Bears loss. We even have a deal during the Bears-Viks match-ups - Bears get to win at Soldier Field and the Viks win at the Humpy Dome. Okay, doesn't always work that way but we'll find out for sure about this year when the Bears play in Minnesota on November 30th. (Neither of us want the Packers, or as we call them, the Porkers to win - ever.)

The Viks summer training camp is in my old hometown. In high school we'd ride our horses over to the practice field and trade rides for autographs. Think Mick Tinglehoff, Carl Eller, Alan Page (who's now a judge) and Bill Brown among many others. Brown was afraid of horses so would stand at the other end of the block and we'd have to go to him for the autograph while someone else held the horses for us. He ended up marrying a woman who owned a horse stable. (Guess he overcame his fear...)

So, about that election...

14. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 8y

[quote=Isadora So, about that election... [/quote]

Well, our current president set a pretty low bar, so it should be no trick for Barack Obama to exceed that standard. One potential problem may be meeting the unrealistic expectations many of his ardent supporters might demand. If there was a switch that turned a countries' economy 'on' or 'off', all politicans would keep it in the 'on' position. Events that are outside of America's control affect our economy. The price of oil is the easiest one to use as an example. The oil price increases in the '70s almost certainly cost Jimmy Carter a second term. The dramatic rise in gas prices this summer certainly did not help the party in power. We cannot add more oil to the domestic supply, so the only thing we do have control over is demand. As the price rose, we were sending more money to oil producing countries. This hardly helps a countries economy. As the price rose over $4/gallon, people simlply drove less. Price then came down with less demand. We went from around $3/gallon in the spring to over $4/gallon in July, now back under $2.50/gallon in Nov. Quite a ride. None of it under the control of our gov't.

This is another way of saying: "Presidents get more credit than they deserve when things are going well and more blame than they deserve when things are going poorly." Enough pontificating, I am going to bed.

15. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 8y

Quoting vegasmike6

Well, our current president set a pretty low bar.

Or like someone told on television: " Out of all the presidents I rank George W. at number 45."

16. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 8y

Quoting Herr Bert

Quoting vegasmike6

Well, our current president set a pretty low bar.

Or like someone told on television: " Out of all the presidents I rank George W. at number 45."

Good quote, but if one examines some of our previous presidents, "W" might edge out Andrew Johnson and Millard Fillmore. Be a close contest however.

17. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 8y

Gotta love Randy Newman...

A Few Words In Defense Of Our Country

I’d like to say
A few words
In defense of our country
Whose people aren't bad
Nor are they mean
Now, the leaders we have
While they're the worst that we've had
Are hardly the worst
This poor world has seen

Let's turn history's pages, shall we?

Take the Caesars, for example
Why, with the first few of them
They were sleeping with their sister, stashing little boys in swimming pools, and burning down the city
And one of 'em, one of 'em appointed his own horse to be Counsel of the Empire
That's like vice president or something
That's not a very good example right now, is it?
But here's one:
Spanish Inquisition
That's a good one
Put people in a terrible position
I don't even like to think about it
Well, sometimes I like to think about it

Just a few words
In defense of our country
Whose time at the top
Could be coming to an end
Now, we don't want their love
And respect at this point's pretty much out of the question
But in times like these
We sure could use a friend

Men who need no introduction

King Leopold of Belgium, that's right
Everyone thinks he's so great
Well, he owned the Congo
He tore it up too
Took the diamonds
Took the silver
Took the gold
You know what he left 'em with?


You know, a president once said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
Now it seems like we're supposed to be afraid
It's patriotic, in fact
What we supposed to be afraid of?
Why, of being afraid
That's what terror means, doesn't it?
That's what it used to mean

You know, it pisses me off a little that this Supreme Court's gonna outlive me
Couple young Italian fellas and a brother on the Court now too
But I defy you, anywhere in the world, to find me two Italians as tightass as the two Italians we got
And as for the brother
Well, Pluto's not a planet anymore either

The end of an empire
Is messy at best
And this empire's ending
Like all the rest
Like the Spanish Armada
Adrift on the sea
We're adrift in the land of the brave
And the home of the free



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