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1. Posted by kateo2009 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 7y

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Hello all :)

I am F 19, starting to travel with a friend.
we land in Bangkok on the 10th of Jan and travel all over SE Asia and then Oz.
was wondering if any one could give me the heads up on any places around the gulf of Thailand I should avoid. ive heard word that the east coast is not always so safe but i need to hear it from the mouth of the horse, so to speak.
thanks a lot!
Kate-O

2. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member 459 posts) 7y

I think a little more research is called for and be a little more critical about your sources.....travelling Thailand is relatively safe at present. F19s need to use common sense and not listen to sensationalist stories.
If you are bckpacking in Thailand I',m sure you'll meet up with like minded people anyway.

3. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 1596 posts) 7y

Quoting kateo2009

Hello all :)

I am F 19, starting to travel with a friend.
we land in Bangkok on the 10th of Jan and travel all over SE Asia and then Oz.
was wondering if any one could give me the heads up on any places around the gulf of Thailand I should avoid. ive heard word that the east coast is not always so safe but i need to hear it from the mouth of the horse, so to speak.
thanks a lot!
Kate-O

There are some areas down in the southern part of Thailand that you might want to avoid because of some problems between Muslims and Buddhists. You might want to avoid Narithiwat, Yala and Pattani because of "political discord!"

Everyone has seen TV programs on the recent political demonstrations in Bangkok. Keep in mind that they were not directed at tourists. Except for the airport blockade most tourists were never affected by previous demonstrations. Keep away from the government offices and parliament and you will most likely be okay.

Two 19 year old girls will probably get in more problems if you meet up with dopers and link up with them. If you do dope in Thailand you can really get in trouble with the police! If you have "new friends" who are dopers they won't have any worries about putting their dope in your bags! Always keep an eye on your bags! Have bags that you can lock up too!

Some women have been assaulted in Phuket. Most of them made bad decisions when they were drunk and went out in the "bushes" with some guy they just met and they were raped, robbed or killed! Be very particular who you go out in the bushes with! Don't drink so much that you lose all common sense!

Google up "things to see and do in Thailand" and look over the many links that show up. Plan your trip in ways to save you money on transportation. Read up on this forum on how to take taxi cabs in Bangkok. Train travel and bus travel is real cheap in Thailand. For Bangkok if you have a hotel near the Skytrain route you can use that rail service to get around town quick and easy. But many younger travelers head for Khao San Road with all of the other really young tourists - hotels are cheap but no Skytrain stops!

Have a nice time in Thailand. You will probably find Bangkok safer than the capital city in your country! Keep in touch with friends and family by email. There are lots of cheap internet shops in Thailand. Tell your friends/family of any "new friends" you meet, tell them where you are going also. Now you have to figure how you will handle your money during this long holiday. You really shouldn't be running around everywhere with $10,000 in your pockets! You will find Thailand much cheaper than Australia by the way!

Good luck.

4. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 7y

Kate,
Thailand is safer than most western countries, but they still have crime. I am glad to hear that you are travelling
with a friend. There is safety in numbers. Keep your female radar on constantly and be aware that scams are going on all the time. Pattaya has the higest crime rate in Thailand, but I doubt you wanted to go their anyway. Walking the beach at night is something most of us want to do, but it is not a good idea alone. Have others along, just common sense.
Stay safe and good luck with your trip.

5. Posted by frank_bkk (Full Member 101 posts) 7y

Going on from what others have written, just use your good old common sense like you would do back home. Take for example, foreigners who have been robbed while walking along the likes of Pattaya Beach alone at 2 o'clock in the morning drunk. Or get involved with some seedy Thai guy junkie beach bum on Ko Samui.

Yes, in the south of Thailand it's probably best to avoid the 3 deepest provinces of Yala, Pattani and Narithiwat but even still they are probably still safer than most cities back home in Farangland.

Coming to Thailand - just use your wit and don't believe sensational stories from armchair travellers or desperate journalists looking to sell a op-ed.

6. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member 459 posts) 7y

OK - now there's the dross beginning to come in....... licentious stories of rape "in the bushes" etc aren't accurate, un-dependable and inconsitant with general safety . In all probability, this sort of crime is no more prevalent here than your home country As for statements like Pattaya "has the highest crime rate" well that is quite risible.....what rate??? what crime/crimes???

Phuket has also had this accolade, which is of course a worthless expression in any circumstances. If you want to experience the full gambit of crime in Thailand, I would suggest that Bangkok will without a doubt be the national leader.

You can't make rules about safety, because you can't cover all circumstances...the truth is that no area of Thailand is particularly dangerous. The borders and possibly the "deep South" might have risks but you have risks at home, what do you do about them there?

don't turn your life-style/room/baggage into a shop window for thieves.
Don't carry wads of cash/valuables
Don't leave things lying around
Don't take everything at face value
Don't LOOK LIKE A VICTIM.
Don't be paranoid
Don't be a racist - fellow travellers are just as likely to steal as any local.

Ask for advice off other guests - not just one "nice" guy.
Smile a lot.
Use safety boxes/padlocks/nets etc when available
Bring only what you need - extras you can buy here as and when.
Familiarise yourself with the money.
Make friends.
Chill - but just keep one eye open

7. Posted by frank_bkk (Full Member 101 posts) 7y

Good advice Wildfk, especially agree on the point about just as much chance of being the victim of another backpacker!

8. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 7y

quote=wildfk]OK - now there's the dross beginning to come in....... licentious stories of rape "in the bushes" etc aren't accurate, un-dependable and inconsitant with general safety . In all probability, this sort of crime is no more prevalent here than your home country As for statements like Pattaya "has the highest crime rate" well that is quite risible.....what rate??? what crime/crimes???

Wil,
The only fair way to compare crime rates or a specific crime is on a per capita basis. India, Russia, the US, the UK will always have more total crime than Lichenstein or Cambodia, there are just many more people in the larger countries. BKK will always have more total crime that Pattaya, larger population. Las Vegas had a high crime rate for many years, even using the per capita method. We had around 200K population in the 80s, but had over 30 million visitors every year. Pattaya is small compared to BKK, but has a huge tourist industry. All the crime committed by visitors count against the city they are visiting. Seems unfair, but that is the way it is.

What country has a higher murder rate per capita, Thailand or America? I think if you did a poll in either Thailand or America, a majority would select the US as having a higher murder rate. Not per capita. I have included a few links that comment about Pattaya's crime problem. When the Chonburi governor asks for additional manpower, I think we can conclude there is a problem. Anyone who has spent as much time time as I have in Pattaya know that the place has
more than its share of the dregs from many countries.

Wil, I have looked for a city by city crime comparison for crime in Thailand, could not find it. If you can, send me a PM or post it here and let's see if BKK, Udon Thani or Phuket can edge out Pattaya for the honor of the having the highest total crime rate, per capita. What is not debatable is that Pattaya certainly has the image of a 'naughty nightlife' city with a percieved 'high crime rate'. The key sentence is that Pattaya is known for the 'beaches, nightlife and high crime rate'. Proof of crime, no. If you can show me that it only 'percieved' and not actual, then I will apologized to you, our young Kate & Pattaya for spreading vicious, untrue rumors about Pattaya's reputation.

9. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member 459 posts) 7y

Sorry mate but I can’t argue with you, because you clearly don’y understand the first thing about rates of crime, types of crime, the way they are collated or even how public perception of crime works.

Your fist comments appear to be a complete withdrawal of your earlier comments, but then you try to re-assert them with some non sequiturs and a completely illogical argument; you're comparing apples and oranges

Statements about “highest crime rate” can be made either in the context of a specific or by people who haven’t got a clue what they are talking about.

10. Posted by susankamal (Budding Member 6 posts) 7y

Well I am female also, and traveling all alone across Thailand, what should I look out for?