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11. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Ok, I changed the description text, that worked.

Well, I see how this happens. The logic in the code goes something like this:

IF description is blank AND meta description is not blank THEN use meta description.

That works great for the initial edit, but not so great if you just want to get rid of the description like you do I'm going to have to think of a way around that without getting in the way of the initial populating of that data. I think I know how, but a little too big a job for tonight.

Leaving the location field blank on the other hand, doesn't work. It specifically asks to type in a location.

Ok, so why do you want to do that again? It is expected behaviour that this would not be allowed.

12. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 7y

Perhaps to help clarify:
Utrecht: the location string in photo editing is reflected in exactly the same database field as positioning a photo on the map. If you change a location on the map, the location also changes in the edit screen, and vice versa.

Over the last few weeks there've been several bugs exposed on the photo edit screen with this, which might make it seem all the more confusing (especially if they left you with some photos which appeared to be correctly mapped, but still had the essential information missing about which country they were taken in), but if you can disregard that, editing the location field in the photo edit screen basically gives you the exact same autocomplete as the location field in the form underneath the worldmap.
If the photo edit screen autocomplete doesn't contain the location you want, then you can pick a country as the minimally required information (this used to be a separate required selectbox, but has now become part of the single location field), and position exactly (creating a new location if necessary) on the map.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 15, 2009, at 4:40 AM by Sander ]

13. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Leaving the location field blank on the other hand, doesn't work. It specifically asks to type in a location.

If you don't want to have to fill in a 'Location', unticking the box 'Show in Gallery' will remove that as a requirement. Obviously not ideal for building up your photo gallery, but it can be useful for those photos you are planning to only add into blog entries.

14. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

Quoting Utrecht

[quote]Leaving the location field blank on the other hand, doesn't work. It specifically asks to type in a location.

Ok, so why do you want to do that again? It is expected behaviour that this would not be allowed.

1. I don't, but probably about 50% of my photos are not manually mapped (that is typing in a specific town/city etc.) but just by clicking the map.
2. As a result, when editing the photo, the location field is still blank, there isn't even the name of the country.
3. Because of this quote of Sander: "If you change a location on the map, the location also changes in the edit screen, and vice versa", I don't want to put in the name of the country, because apparently this will mean that the photo is mapped somewhere in the middle of the country, and not on the exact place I clicked on the map in the first place.
4. Reading further in Sander's quote, I get confused about the point mentioned above. If I only add the name of the country, does the initial spot on the map stay on that location, or do I need to map it again?

Michael

15. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

1. I don't, but probably about 50% of my photos are not manually mapped (that is typing in a specific town/city etc.) but just by clicking the map.
2. As a result, when editing the photo, the location field is still blank, there isn't even the name of the country.

Ah, now we might be getting somewhere :) So these are photos where you click on a location on the map and then don't fill in a custom name for that location in the box that pops up? In other words, you create a custom location and save them to a latitude and longitude, but don't actually give it a name? I don't think that scenario has ever been considered as lat/long are not part of the photo edit field. Interesting. Peter?

Quoting Utrecht

3. Because of this quote of Sander: "If you change a location on the map, the location also changes in the edit screen, and vice versa", I don't want to put in the name of the country, because apparently this will mean that the photo is mapped somewhere in the middle of the country, and not on the exact place I clicked on the map in the first place.
4. Reading further in Sander's quote, I get confused about the point mentioned above. If I only add the name of the country, does the initial spot on the map stay on that location, or do I need to map it again?

Basically you can create as many 'custom locations' as you want. I find this quite useful as once you've done it once, it should show up in the regular upload edit page as well, making it much easier to add photos to that location the next time you upload them!

Let me know if I've lost you!

16. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Ok, thanks Sam.
Yep, the first part is exactly true.

The second part I am afraid I lost you, or you lost me
What I ment is that for example after uploading a photo and then mapping it manually but only naming the country (so no city, town etc.) it is placed somewhere in the middle of that country. Like when editing the photo again, you can also choose the country name, so I'd rather keep it blank instead of having the dot somewhere in the middle of Oz Although that might be ok for Alice Spings or uluru

17. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

What I ment is that for example after uploading a photo and then mapping it manually but only naming the country (so no city, town etc.) it is placed somewhere in the middle of that country. Like when editing the photo again, you can also choose the country name, so I'd rather keep it blank instead of having the dot somewhere in the middle of Oz Although that might be ok for Alice Spings or uluru

Okay, so I think the way you are doing it is one that hasn't been considered. Basically, we always thought that if someone clicks somewhere on the map, they will not just select a country, but also give that point (aka 'custom location') a name. Their 'custom label' as I call it. I've taken some screenshots of me doing this, which you'll have to click through in reverse, starting here (just hit previous up at the top). The outcome is that the photo ends up with a 'custom label', testlocation in the Bahamas, voila.

However, if I had not filled in the second box, I get this as a result.

So far nothing wrong, but now I go back to edit the latter of the two, and the edit form doesn't include any location whatsoever. Basically hitting edit shows the location as being non-existent, and that must be the problem you are running into? When hitting submit then, the form doesn't check to see if the photo does happen to have a latitude or longitude assigned to it (which it actually does!), just if it has that custom label. Therefore, it gives you an error message. If I do the same thing with the one that is mapped to a 'custom label' testlocation, it recognizes that and hitting save works fine.

Okay, so in principle I'd recommend adding a label :)

However, this should really just work as the latitude and longitude can be much more accurate if manually mapped or for example the photo was taken on a gps enabled device.

One benefit of adding a custom label is that if you go back later on and want to add other photos to that spot, you should be able to do that directly from the edit form, without having to go to the Map view again. I think there might be a delay on your custom locations showing in that auto-complete list that shows up in the location field of the edit form though, as in trying to map something to testlocation after defining it earlier, it won't bring it up as I type it. This appears to be a bug, because if I just type 'testlocation' there and hit submit, the system accepts it and maps it to my earlier defined spot. Another benefit of adding a custom label is it looks better on your map :)

So in closing, yes, the system still seems to have some bugs Your particular bug is one that is likely to affect a very small amount of people, as most will go with a pre-defined location or have added a label. But nonetheless, that should be fixed as it's illogical to lose your mapping just by editing a photo! Hopefully the bug that currently exists and means you don't see your custom labels when filling in the location will also soon be fixed.

Please let me know if what I've described above seems to be what you are encountering! And bear with us as we get this 100% worked out, once and for all!!!

18. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

3. When editing the description part and trying to delete the "SONY DSC" text, it says that the changes have succesfully been made. But going back to my gallery and opening the photo, the sony dsc text is still there

This is now fixed as well. Quite stupid how it was working actually - there is really no need to read from the Exif data apart from when first inserting the photo (which happens before you ever get to that editing screen).

Still working on the other problem. Trying to make sure I don't break anything else while trying to fix it

19. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Sam I Am

[quote=Utrecht]

Okay, so in principle I'd recommend adding a label :)
One benefit of adding a custom label is that if you go back later on and want to add other photos to that spot, you should be able to do that directly from the edit form, without having to go to the Map view again. I think there might be a delay on your custom locations showing in that auto-complete list that shows up in the location field of the edit form though, as in trying to map something to testlocation after defining it earlier, it won't bring it up as I type it. This appears to be a bug, because if I just type 'testlocation' there and hit submit, the system accepts it and maps it to my earlier defined spot. Another benefit of adding a custom label is it looks better on your map :)
So in closing, yes, the system still seems to have some bugs Your particular bug is one that is likely to affect a very small amount of people, as most will go with a pre-defined location or have added a label. But nonetheless, that should be fixed as it's illogical to lose your mapping just by editing a photo! Hopefully the bug that currently exists and means you don't see your custom labels when filling in the location will also soon be fixed.
Please let me know if what I've described above seems to be what you are encountering! And bear with us as we get this 100% worked out, once and for all!!!

Ok, thanks Sam, that is exactly what happend indeed and only with the photo that I didn't label. Some of the ones that I didn't map manually but did give a custom label, didn't have that problem.
I guess we are close to 100% now....if anything still exists (or new bugs appear) I will let you know.
Cheers!

20. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

Quoting Utrecht

3. When editing the description part and trying to delete the "SONY DSC" text, it says that the changes have succesfully been made. But going back to my gallery and opening the photo, the sony dsc text is still there

This is now fixed as well. Quite stupid how it was working actually - there is really no need to read from the Exif data apart from when first inserting the photo (which happens before you ever get to that editing screen).

Still working on the other problem. Trying to make sure I don't break anything else while trying to fix it

Thanks for that as well Peter...going to delete that info immmediately;)