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11. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Something for you to take a look at:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/travel_1744.html

if you dig through the site you'll see that you can travel visa-free as a tourist to all European countries except Russia.

12. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

One more thought:

If you bring a tent and are willing to carry it for all of your trip you can save quite a bit of money. There are quite a number of camping sites all over Europe, staying there as a single person with a small tent is usually cheaper than sleeping at a hostel. Where a hostel is 25 EUR the camping site is usually around 15 EUR. And in a very bad pitch (if you have all your money stolen the first day of your trip) you can sleep in the fields with it. (Practically the only way to travel around Sweden without going completely broke.)

Your options for cheap food also increase with camping: with a small gas stove and pot you can cook delicious meals and eat hot piping food without going to a restaurant (all those sandwiches can get a bit tiring).

So how much to shell out for a tent? Depends where you are going.

Walmart has the Wenzel Starlite Hiker/Biker Tent available for 20 USD at their website. If you are mainly headed for Southern Europe (Spain, Italy, Southern France, Greece) during the summer months this little baby seems perfect.

However for the Netherlands, Germany, Northern and Western France, the UK and Ireland it is utterly useless - it is only ok until the first serious rush of rain. (If we get a rainy summer like 2007 you'll throw the Walmart tent away cursing.) For these regions I would get a tent that is somewhere in the range of 150 USD and gets reviews like "Washington State rain tested".

Also essential for your comfort are a sleeping bag and good mattress. I got my sleeping bag on ebay.de for 14 EUR, it is an el cheapo job that is alright for warm Southern European summer nights and relatively light. My mattress is a Gelert X-treme Lite, I bought it because it fits into my odd-sized tent and I was able to get it on a sale. (There are others that are lighter.)

With the tent, the sleeping bag and the mattress your backpack will be about 3.5 kgs/8lbs heavier, plus you need a larger, 65 liter backpack.

Hope this was helpful.

13. Posted by Eyezayuh (Budding Member 21 posts) 7y

Yes it was, I'm buying an 85L backpack tomorrow at Rei, now Im seriously thinking to get a tent and sleeping bag too just in case.

14. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Whoah, no! Do not buy such a gigantic pack!

85 liters is waaayy too large, if you weren't going with a tent a 35-50 liters pack would be sufficient.

Take a look at packs that are in the 55-70 liters range if you intend to travel with a tent.

I suggest you try out the Deuter ACT Lite 65+10, this would be the ideal pack IMO. It is available at REI online.

[ Edit: Edited on 21-Jan-2009, at 19:30 by t_maia ]

15. Posted by Eyezayuh (Budding Member 21 posts) 7y

Lol, Well Im a rather tall male, 6'6, and am also rather well conditioned. I tried on the Large Gregory Palisade 80 pack and it fit nicely. Most others were too uncomfortable and short. I hear this one will last my trip too.

Also, I'm an awful packer, I hope to fix this.

16. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Ah, good that you know what you are doing.

One of my friends went to a store, she came back with a 75 liter pack. She is about 5.5 ft tall and very slender. I convinced the ignoramus crook who had sold it to her to take it back by telling her to step into it - she almost disappeared.

Since you are going to REI and got space in your pack:

http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=56804#Post4

One more thing: You might have trouble finding a tent, sleeping bag and mattress that is long enough for you. Talk to the people at REI. The only tent that I know that should be long enough for you is the Helsport Ringstind 2.

[ Edit: Edited on 21-Jan-2009, at 21:39 by t_maia ]

17. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 7y

Re camping: although (municipal) campsites are quite widely available, and while it is a good way to reduce your expenses, I wouldn't recommend it. It simply takes too much time off your trip.

Re budget: I think Maia may be slightly optimistic with her €25 a night on average, unless you include a lot of Eastern Europe in your itinerary. I'd budget a little bit more; €35 is probably too much, but that way you have some money left towards the end of your trip. Another way to reduce expenses for accomodation would be to use a hospex network; there's several of them out there, but I have to say that the chances at success are rather slim in summer in Europe.

18. Posted by Eyezayuh (Budding Member 21 posts) 7y

I have planned on spending 75 Euros a day.

I bought my ticket last night, thank you for all your help. I will be there for 60 days and am flying into Barcelona.

I'm excited.

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