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So what if its TOURISTIC?

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1. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru, 1113 posts) 22 Jan '09 21:03

Is that word officially an English word? What about touristry? which is suppose to be an adjective describing places like Phuket and Bali.

Anyway, what with people who would say, "Lets skip Bali (or the likes), because it is touristic." Uhm, what?
So which part of Indonesia should be interesting? It has 14,000 islands, but some people will skip iconoclastic bali, because there are too Aussies in that island. They think it aint cool to go to such places. But they make exceptions, ANGKOR WATT or the Great Wall of China.

Its like, I don't dig Britney Spears, coz she is pop culture creature. I don't dig Britney either, but I don't mind sharing a paradise island with drunk caucasians from down under.

Its just ironic to hear tourist complain about touristic places. I know remote or isolated areas are fantastic. But if you are not an anthropologist or someone who publish a book or lecture in a university about an unkown shitty island in the Indonesian archipelago, why hate places like Bali.

I think it is the ego thinking, when we decide to visit places that nobody cares about. We go there with our ignorance, pollute the environment and damage indigenous cultures, in the name of our so called, Less touristic route.

2. Posted by Isadora (Moderator, 13924 posts) 23 Jan '09 06:06

Touristic = Of or relating to a tour, tourism, or tourists (Adjective)

Touristry = The business of providing services to tourists (Noun)

3. Posted by Erik85 (Respected Member, 274 posts) 29 Jan '09 04:36

Also, Touristy = the unofficial word many people use, which means the same as Touristic.

There's people that go to a place just because of the "name".
Equally there's people who avoid amazing places because they don't wanna be cliche, in reality this is almost as cliche!

It depends what you want out of travelling. Far flung places = more effort, but a more unique experience.
Popular places = less effort, but a similar experience to everyone else (whether it's good or bad).

I think most popular places have become popular for a reason though. But for long haul trips and wanting to learn more about the country then far flung places places are awesome.

I've had great times in Paris. I've had great times in a village of a couple hundred people in Nepal - great times is all that should matter!

PS: I'm glad someone doesn't mind the drunken Aussies, lol!

4. Posted by CanadaKid (Full Member, 71 posts) 3 Feb '09 13:06

Yeah, it's silly to avoid going to a place just because there are lots of tourists there. But at the same time, a lot of these places just take the dominant tourist culture and recreate it in another country. For example, Cancun, Mexico. I think that is more what people are trying to avoid then the fact that there are other tourists there. They want to experience the local culture more rather than just hanging out with people from their home country in a restaurant that is in their home country.

I am an anthropologist. And generally, places that have a million tourists are way more destructive to the local culture than someone who goes off the beaten track and explores unknown places.

I guess unless you show up with that attitude that it's just "an unknown shitty island", as you called it.

5. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru, 1113 posts) 5 Feb '09 01:33

Quoting NateKristy

I am an anthropologist. And generally, places that have a million tourists are way more destructive to the local culture than someone who goes off the beaten track and explores unknown places.

People who play anthropologist or the other species of social scientist are as detrimental to local cultures and the environment. Well, you are the real thing.
Should people have the right to pretend that they are researchers when they visit non touristic places? Are some travellers just dellusional. Infairness to some backpackers, the academe has a surplus of hypocrites, who would spend years studying a place or cultures, so they can produce an incomprehensable literature that can rot in some archives.

I skip Tokyo Disneyland, because I was young(stupid) and I thought it wasn't scholarly. Truth is I just thought it was too expensive or maybe I really believed that I am too smart for Disneyland and that going to a market or supermarket was more cultural.

6. Posted by sambo123 (Budding Member, 45 posts) 5 Feb '09 03:45

Why don't we all live on the philosophy 'try everything once'? if you don't like it don't go back, if you do- GREAT! Who cares if there are tourists too!

7. Posted by CanadaKid (Full Member, 71 posts) 5 Feb '09 07:57

Swept Away,

I don't really understand what you are trying to say. In your first post you said that it was ok to go to non-touristy places if you were an anthropologist and now you are saying that anthropologists are detrimental? The point of anthropology is to study another culture without damaging that culture - and I think this is almost like the philosophy that many backpackers live by (leave only footprints, take only photos).

I also think you are suggesting that I pretend to be an anthropologist so I can go to these places? hahaha. The reason I referenced that is because of your theory that one person affects a local culture more than a million tourists in one touristy place does. That is just not correct. Have you ever studied Anthropology? Back when Anthropology first started, yes, it was entirely B.S. (but it still wasn't to destroy the local culture. They wanted to preserve it so they could mock it back in Europe). But now there are so many new theories like medical anthropology and others that seek to preserve local culture and present it to the rest of the world in a way that is understandable and relevant. Besides that, I don't really care if you think i'm an anthropologist or just another backpacker, I still feel the same way.

Besides all that, I think you completely misunderstood. I totally agreed with you. I said

Yeah, it's silly to avoid going to a place just because there are lots of tourists there.

I was just trying to show the other point of view as to why people think that going to a touristic place is not so cool. I'm not sure why you started this forum if you only wanted people to agree with you.... and even then, I did agree with you! I've been to some of the most touristy places in the world, and some of the least touristy and both have been amazing.

Other than that, I just hated your attitude to call places that you don't want to go to "other shitty islands". I think that attitude above anything is what is wrong with people choosing destinations over others. Try having an open mind. If people didn't just pass judgment on places like that, then maybe they would get to experience cooler places whether they are touristy or not. Like Sambo said, it's more about trying things than about categorizing...

8. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru, 1113 posts) 6 Feb '09 04:36

Quoting NateKristy

Swept Away,

I don't really understand what you are trying to say.

With your first statement, I would have to say its my fault.

Absolutely nothing personal. I don't make assumption about people. And certainly, I don't write to offend people.

I said I am stupid for not going to Tokyo disney. I just happen to have very young friends who are about to make the same mistakes. Because of the idea that Touristic places are not cool.

9. Posted by karlyfu (Budding Member, 62 posts) 7 Feb '09 02:33

See both- off the beaten track and touristy places, after all you won't impress your friends back home with places they've never heard of right? :) Just by pure chance I have managed to see a lot of touristy places with little to no tourists present, however other places I have seen the line and walked away and really... I don't feel like I missed anything! (Excepting the Sistine chapel which I missed because I got there only 1/2 hr before it closed? I was confused and the security guard wasn't budging!)

10. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru, 1113 posts) 7 Feb '09 02:43

I WAS ALONE IN PHUKET... totally alone... probably why I hated it to death...

where are the annoying tourists? where are the whores? the touts? and the vietnamese tuktuk motorbike taxis.

Everyone in my bus, skip Phuket coz they said its TOURISTIC... so the cool backpackers all went to KRABI to meet Germans and more Germans. Three beaches, including Patong was so Empty... everyone was probably in the go go bars.