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11. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 7y

great idea! it's cool to see my name by some of the articles :) . I think it will encourage people to contribute, especially with the option to display website links.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Jan-2009, at 01:37 by bex76 ]

12. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Great to see the positive feedback so far! It's the simplest things sometimes which make a big difference! It's likely also attract some guides from new members who are experts for a certain destination and want to both promote the destination and their own site some. Might be good to alert some of the forum posters we see from time to time with that kind of post.

13. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Another thing I just noticed:
If you redirect an article (in most cases: change the title), the number of characters is withdrawn from you total. That's not a good thing I guess, even more so because I also noticed that the % of contribution is gone as well, meaning no google adsense income
Changing a title is one thing, but for the new article the number of characters needs to be compensated, don't you think. At least the part that was yours in the first place, and thus also the % of each member

14. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

If you redirect an article (in most cases: change the title), the number of characters is withdrawn from you total. That's not a good thing I guess, even more so because I also noticed that the % of contribution is gone as well, meaning no google adsense income

That's intentional to make sure people choose the right titles to start with :) Seriously though, this is slightly tricky to do right. Of course if you're changing on your own work, then it works fine since the new page would include your content again and it would even out. It might also even out for those that tend to be more active, since they'd be redirecting other users content more often than their own is redirected.

Do you have any specific examples where it was done by someone else and cut your characters? I'm guessing if dr.pepper, Peter or one of the other regulars is doing it and an article was more or less owned by you, they could actually ask you to do the change yourself. Technically I think it'd be rather hard

15. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Another thing I just noticed:
If you redirect an article (in most cases: change the title), the number of characters is withdrawn from you total. That's not a good thing I guess, even more so because I also noticed that the % of contribution is gone as well, meaning no google adsense income
Changing a title is one thing, but for the new article the number of characters needs to be compensated, don't you think. At least the part that was yours in the first place, and thus also the % of each member

Actually, I think this should already be semi-handled. If you use the "Change Title" link to fix a title, it should in theory move across all the history to the new article (you can see this by looking at the history of the new article). All contribution shares will also be moved across with it.

However, what sometimes happens is that redirects are done differently; instead copying and pasting the text into a new article. There are some reasons to do this, but it is somewhat rare. It's a much harder job to track that change programmaticaly, so I'm counting on people doing it the proper way. If you have a specific example, then we can see if that is indeed the case.

In a nutshell though, the right thing to do is to use the Change Title function if something needs to be redirected to a new location. That will ensure integrity of the history.

16. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Nope, I guess not.
Few weeks ago I was editing some natural unesco sites. Pretty sure i was the first and only contributor..mainly a small 500 charachter introduction or something.
Illulisat Icefjord is an example. Maybe you can add something and see if it shows afterwards;)
cheers!

This bug should be fixed now. The problem was that a bunch of blank articles were clogging up the system. It processes them 25 at a time and the first 25 were all ones which effectively didn't have any contributors (ie, blank or only a template). And the way it was run, it wasn't then looking at the other articles afterwards. I've reversed the order of updating, so it now updates based on the latest change. This should avoid the problem I'm pretty sure, but let me know if you notice it still happening.

I've also increased the update frequency to every half hour - but it has a limit of 25 at a time, so if more than 25 articles were edited, then it might take a few updates.

17. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Sam I Am

[quote=Utrecht]
Do you have any specific examples where it was done by someone else and cut your characters? I'm guessing if dr.pepper, Peter or one of the other regulars is doing it and an article was more or less owned by you, they could actually ask you to do the change yourself. Technically I think it'd be rather hard

Uhm, no, not really.
But I noticed that Lavafalls changed the Famous Places and Things in Famous Landmarks and there was like a -3000 character on that one.
Then when viewing the article I didn't notice any contribution percentages.

18. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

Quoting Utrecht

Nope, I guess not.
Few weeks ago I was editing some natural unesco sites. Pretty sure i was the first and only contributor..mainly a small 500 charachter introduction or something.
Illulisat Icefjord is an example. Maybe you can add something and see if it shows afterwards;)
cheers!

This bug should be fixed now. The problem was that a bunch of blank articles were clogging up the system. It processes them 25 at a time and the first 25 were all ones which effectively didn't have any contributors (ie, blank or only a template). And the way it was run, it wasn't then looking at the other articles afterwards. I've reversed the order of updating, so it now updates based on the latest change. This should avoid the problem I'm pretty sure, but let me know if you notice it still happening.

I've also increased the update frequency to every half hour - but it has a limit of 25 at a time, so if more than 25 articles were edited, then it might take a few updates.

Cheers on that one as well.
I will let you know when I see things that I can't explain with my basic knowledge

19. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting Sam I Am

[quote=Utrecht]
Do you have any specific examples where it was done by someone else and cut your characters? I'm guessing if dr.pepper, Peter or one of the other regulars is doing it and an article was more or less owned by you, they could actually ask you to do the change yourself. Technically I think it'd be rather hard

Uhm, no, not really.
But I noticed that Lavafalls changed the Famous Places and Things in Famous Landmarks and there was like a -3000 character on that one.
Then when viewing the article I didn't notice any contribution percentages.

Ok, that was just suffering from the same problem as the others without contributors - the new article hadn't been calculated yet.

The -3000 characters was the characters being deleted from the old article, being replaced with redirect code instead.

If you look at the Famous Landmarks article now, you will see that the contributions are updated and correct.

20. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 7y

Very cool, if nothing more than an ego stroke. Oh, I can hardly wait for a few weeks when I have all sorts of stuff to add to the Sheffield, England article! More links, yay!

Greg