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Staying in Europe All Year without breaking the law

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1. Posted by Los Mochis (Budding Member 2 posts) 7y

Question:

In regards to the Schengen Law. I am from México and I want to stay in Europe all year round without breaking the law.

What about if I enter Schengen territory, let´s say Spain or France, or whatever. I spend 90 days traveling around Schengen terriotry. The I go and enter England and spend 90 days there or 180 since I get a 6 month turist Visa,

Can I go back to Schengen territory after that? I guess the point is, is this a way to stay in Europe all year round without breaking the law? 90 Days in Schengen then 180 days in England, and then go back to Schengen for 90 days?

Thanks

2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

I spend 90 days traveling around Schengen terriotry. The I go and enter England and spend 90 days there

Yes, that is exactly how it would work. 90 days Schengen, 91 days UK and Ireland, 90 days Schengen, 90 days other European countries, maybe adding Morocco, Turkey and Egypt to the menue.

If you are a native speaker of Spanish, from Mexico and got a bachelor's degree (or whatever it is called in Spanish) you can also look at the skilled migrant program the Spanish embassy has. Long-term stay in Europe with a work permit included.

3. Posted by Los Mochis (Budding Member 2 posts) 7y

I guess that my real doubt is more gear towards the UK being part of the EU and that may be becoming an issue.
Meaning, that is clear to me that I can only stay 90 days at a time in Schengen territory adding to a total of 180 days per year or 90 days for every six months.

Where I want to be sure is, that if going to the UK for the other 180 days, basically alternating, 90 days Schengen and 90 days UK and so forth, that I will not be breaking any laws.

Because technically I will still be in Europe or not going back to my home country. If this is possible I can keep a flat in the UK and a flat in Spain for instance and then just live three months at a time on each of them.
To be more direct, does the UK or the rest of Europe care if I spend the 90 days after my first 90 days in England or Ireland waiting to re entered Schengen on day 181.

Thanks again for the input.

4. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Quoting Los Mochis

I guess that my real doubt is more gear towards the UK being part of the EU and that may be becoming an issue.

Because technically I will still be in Europe

But you won't be in Schengen which is all the Schengen area immigration officers will care about. UK, Ireland, ukraine, Morocco, your home country - it doesn't matter where you stay during the 91 days you wait before you reenter Schengen.

5. Posted by karlyfu (Budding Member 62 posts) 7y

Quoting Los Mochis

If this is possible I can keep a flat in the UK and a flat in Spain for instance and then just live three months at a time on each of them.

Can I stay in your flat the other 90 days ?? just kidding, worth a try tho.

6. Posted by laljoon (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

Hi,
I'm currently in Ireland and I want to stay longer then the 3 months. But I have no visa. Is it true that I can leave Ireland for a few days and come back and have the 3 months start all over again? If so do I need to leave the UK entirely.. Can I just go to another European Country and come back? (France, Spain..ect)

OR can I stay in Ireland 3 months and then Spain 3 months.. then do it all over again???

please let me know if this is true...
or if you have any advice.
thanks!!

7. Posted by Redpaddy (Inactive 1004 posts) 7y

Post #6# laljoon.... You're best move would be to contact emabassies. They'll (for sure) have all the answers you need to know.

8. Posted by magus (Budding Member 8 posts) 7y

Quoting karlyfu

Quoting Los Mochis

If this is possible I can keep a flat in the UK and a flat in Spain for instance and then just live three months at a time on each of them.

Can I stay in your flat the other 90 days ?? just kidding, worth a try tho.

and I

9. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 7y

Quoting laljoon

Hi,
Is it true that I can leave Ireland for a few days and come back and have the 3 months start all over again? If so do I need to leave the UK entirely.. Can I just go to another European Country and come back? (France, Spain..ect)

Ireland has not signed the part of the Schengen agreement that concerns visa regulations. So, concerning the 2nd part of your question: yes, afaik you can spend your time outside Ireland in a Schengen member country, as long as your stay does not exceed 90 days in any 180 days period.

As to the first part, Ireland has its own visa regulations. I don't know them, but it's likely that they too minimised the period that you have to reside outside the Irish-UK union to 91 days. So, your plan of hopping in and out is not likely to work. Best check with your national consulate; the general rules that apply to Irish visa are explained here.