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1. Posted by The Rymans (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

I'd like my blog entries to begin at the beginning, with the oldest ones on top, and continue that way, with the newest ones at the bottom. But it seems the default is the other way around. I haven't been able to figure out how to change it. I can rearrange the order by sorting them in the list version of blog topics that I see in the control panel, but when I click "Publish" it goes back to the default, with the latest entry on top and older ones beneath. Can I change this? Thanks!

2. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 7y

The very essence of a blog is that the most current entry is the first listed one, so that people who visit the blog regularly can immediately see if there's new content. May I ask if you can explain why you want to reverse this order? It'd help us understand how you see yourself using the blog: if this really is a missing option, or if we can provide an alternative way to achieve the same effect.

The main reason I can think of to have a blog sorted in chronological order is to have something you can easily read through once your travels are finished. For that we have the option to "print" the entire blog in said chronological order (either to a PDF file or to an HTML file, with formatting perfect for printing). You can find that option under manage -> print.

3. Posted by The Rymans (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

I see your point about the very nature of blogs. I guess it's because I often stumble upon blogs that have been going on for a while already, and I find it disorienting to read the latest entries before I've had a chance to read the introductory ones. For example if I'm new to a blog, I want to read the basics about who the person is, where they're from, where they're going, the planning stages, the map of their itinerary, etc. before I get into what they did last night in Varanasi, sort of thing. I guess it would be different if I had been reading from the very beginning and keeping up daily, but often that's not the case.

So, anticipating that some people who read my blog may be in the same situation (and may also be relatives or parents who are older and not blog-savvy), there are just some things I'd like to keep up near the top.

I'm not much of a blog-reader aside from travel blogs, to be honest, so maybe I just need to get used to the format. But I do think the reverse chronological order makes a lot more sense for the blogger than it does for the audience! Thanks.

4. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 7y

Asparagus? I had that for dinner last week.

5. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 7y

Ah, that's an interesting point. Most blogs I follow have an "about" page for this (the blogs here have something vaguely similar by putting up the "about me" section from people's profiles when you click on the "author" link in the sidebar) - but that's a click removed, and author-specific, rather than blog-specific. And for travel blogs which have a definite chronology / purpose, context probably is a lot more relevant than on 'random' blogs.

Might be a good idea for the blogs here to have an option for some kind of text in the sidebar (or maybe an "introduction" above the regular blog entries) which'll always show up, and which can thus be used to explain these basics. (Peter/Sam: would at the same time allow for the frequent request of having an always-on map showing up.)

6. Posted by The Rymans (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

I like that idea of having an introduction of some kind at the top, or a sidebar, that is permanent and doesn't move down. It doesn't need to be terribly long or complicated, but I think key ingredients would include a map (optional of course), a photo (also optional) and enough room to write a paragraph of maybe 5-6 sentences introducing the blogger, the trip, the itinerary, etc. (whatever the writer wants to include). Actually the whole thing could be optional. I would use it all for sure! Anyway -- I guess that answers my question for now!

7. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Thanks for the suggestions! Aspargus, if you look at this page, does that seem about right?

It's the standard author page, but that same information could be added as an optional on/off on every page I guess. You need to fill in your Travellerspoint profile for that text to show there, and it will automatically pull in a recent photo. You'll also see a map there, which is something I've kind of got in testing mode right now. There's only one other user with this activated currently: http://berrysblog.travellerspoint.com/, but happy to add you to the list. As you can see on that second example, the map shows much larger. That's something which basically comes down to personal preference and how it ties in with the design of the template you've chosen. Mind you, I'm not overly happy with the way it's done now though as it will only allow showing 'all trips', rather than individual ones. One downside of that is that clicking on a point on the map results in an error page.... the other is that you might only want to show one trip :)

On the note of reverse ordering, we've discussed this a few times internally, as well as on the forum. I think we've more or less decided not to do this anytime soon, especially after we added the Table of Contents option, which allows for reverse sorting, and thus for a reader to start from the first post. Hope that makes sense!

Let me know what you think of the map/author solutions as per above and if you'd like to have that map activated for your blog. It can be switched back easily too :)

8. Posted by The Rymans (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

Hi! Yes, I like the look of http://sam-i-am.travellerspoint.com/author/4/ where the sidebar offers most of the basic info that someone would need to get oriented. I guess I should go do some work on my profile! That would be great if you could add me to the list for the map option as on http://berrysblog.travellerspoint.com. I see there are some pros and cons, but anyway I can do some experimenting to find what works the best with my template and blog plans.

Good point also about the table of contents option -- and I have actually used that to read 1-2 other blogs here in reverse order. I'd forgotten about it. Thanks!

9. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Asparagus

That would be great if you could add me to the list for the map option as on http://berrysblog.travellerspoint.com. I see there are some pros and cons, but anyway I can do some experimenting to find what works the best with my template and blog plans

Okay, this is now done. Let me know what you think!

10. Posted by The Rymans (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

That works for me! Thanks!