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11. Posted by SamSalmon (Respected Member 626 posts) 7y

If you knew what the fuck you were doing with "HOMELAND SECURITY" you wouldnt have so many problems with illegal immigrants.

Well Eric why don't you try sharing your blazing insight with US Customs & Immigration officials-maybe they can learn something from an experienced tree planter like you!

12. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 7y

Okay... Just your friendly neighborhood Moderator here... :)

Now that everyone has expressed their opinions - okay maybe not everyone but good enough for me - let's bring this thread back to topic.

Regardless of anyone's viewpoint on how the system works in the US, it is what it is. Since we do not have a working holiday visa or BUNAC-type opportunities available to citizens of "foreign" countries - and yes, Canada is still a "foreign" country (like it or not), you have limited options. It does not matter what type of work one is willing to do - legally, you need to have an offer of employment by a US business to be employed here. Anything else is considered "under-the-table" work and, if caught, reason enough for deportation. Since you state you have a graphics design degree, that would be your best route for finding a company willing to sponsor you. Other than that, you take your chances.

Moderator comment: Please keep this thread on topic. Any further deviations will be edited/deleted without notice.

13. Posted by aireek (Budding Member 15 posts) 7y

Quoting SamSalmon

If you knew what the fuck you were doing with "HOMELAND SECURITY" you wouldnt have so many problems with illegal immigrants.

Well Eric why don't you try sharing your blazing insight with US Customs & Immigration officials-maybe they can learn something from an experienced tree planter like you!

are you bagging me out because i choose to go treeplanting?

its a great job whilst travelling and its really a good opportunity to help the environment so bagging me out for it wouldnt really be fair... or ethical either.

im not trying to start a fight here. the whole reason i posted is because im a traveller and want to visit the beautiful california while im young and i dont think its fair to try to make me feel guilty for wanting to make a bit of money while im there.

i was actually looking for people that have been in a situation like me and could maybe help me out about how hard it would be to find something like that. how many people travelling have worked under the table? i dont think its fair to compare me to an illegal immigrant that wants to live in the US for free for the rest of their lives.

again, i never wanted to get in an argument about this with anyone so stop trying to make me feel bad for a decision like this and realize i want to go (just for a couple months) to enjoy a beautiful place.

Thanks SamSalmon for making an obviously negative comment about tree planting. i hope it made you feel like you are better than me and good luck with your beautiful life and i really hope you arent writing these comments in an office somewhere working for "the man" haha.

cheers

14. Posted by Calcruzer (Moderator 1989 posts) 7y

To get back to the original question, the legal way to work in the US is via the so-called H1B visa program.

As was explained by Isadora, other work--while available--is only done illegally--and yes, there are lots of people that do illegal work here in the US--or maybe I should say there were many. Right now--because of the terrible economy, quite a few Mexicans and other Central Americans are leaving the farming jobs and returning to their home countries. The unemployment rate in farming communities of California like King City, Gonzales, and Chualar is between 25% and 30% right now--this is as bad as it was during our Great Depression of the 1930s.

As a result, many of these people are taking restaurant jobs, retail jobs, etc.--but even these get about 5 applicants for every 1 job available right now--so I'd say come on down--but maybe do it in a year or two when times have goten a bit better--or else go the legal H1B route.

Enjoy

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16. Posted by hanhans (Budding Member 37 posts) 7y

Funny thread...hehe

Seems to me like the americans are afraid the canadians will come and take all the good jobs
We have kinda the same problem in norway with the sweeds coming here and working for a few months duing summer. I’m telling u, it’s totaly ruening our economy

One question though; can americans work(legally) in canada without going through red tape?

17. Posted by tleb (Full Member 117 posts) 7y

There is always red tape. But it is easier to come north than to go south (depending on education, job market and skill set of course). I know a couple Americans who came up to B.C in order to start a self-sufficient, off the grid community. It will be years until it really comes to fruition, but I think they have the brains and the intentions to pull it off. They are being made to jump through all kinds of hoops to get their citizenship, even though one of them married a Canadian girl and all of them are being sponsored by local companies where they currently work. But they will be allowed to. Such is not always the case when heading south.

It's probably not necessary to say, but I would like to point out that though some of his opinions are had by his fellow countrymen, his manners and attitude are all him.

reek, your best bet is seriously to go through customs as a tourist. Then knock on the backdoors of restaurants to find a paying job. Don't expect to be paid much, and do not be surprised by any ones reactions (specifically Americans) to you working illegally. The recession so far has hit harder south of the border, and illegal immigration was a problem long before that started. Work can be difficult to come by right now for the locals who grew up there, so don't be surprised if people resent someone else for wanting to come and occupy their jobs. Syncrude and Suncor are the biggies in town.

Your other option is to work here and save up the dough. There are still sectors with reliable well paid jobs that won't be going anywhere. Look into power engineering. Fort Mac still has those jobs available with stupidly good pay and benefits for the lack of education required for that job. Those jobs will be available until people stop using oil, or everyone else in the country realizes how easy it is to get sucha well-paying job.

Also, of you would like an in depth explanation about the necessity of, and the positive effects of our immigration policy, please let me know. But start a new thread or even better, PM me. I think we ought to avoid the wrath of Isadora until we are more familiar here.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Feb-2009, at 13:19 by tleb ]

18. Posted by TalonToday (Budding Member 31 posts) 7y

whoa you need to chill out and stop snapping at people. we are all just trying to help.

and yes you cant stay long in the US. my dad is a canadian citizen and he came down here with nothing but a small backpack of clothes and his bike. but he only had 90 days or whatever it is to stay here. he then met my mom and had to get married right away so that he could stay in the states.

you have to have a reason to stay here

19. Posted by steve_905 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 7y

yo yo i am from Canada and i know for a fact that there are no jobs left in California as of May 24, 2009. Alberta, British Columbia, and Saskatchewan are looking to be the richest places in the world to live. With Saskatchewan and Alberta's unemployment rate at an average of about 5% during this recession, Canada is looking to run a very small deficit this year, compared to other countries like England and The United States of America which are running deficits into the trillions.

20. Posted by Calcruzer (Moderator 1989 posts) 7y

As a Californian, knowing that the state government of California is currently projecting a $40 billion deficit (which, by law, they have to make up, since states are not allowed to run deficits), means that there will be thousands of state layoffs between now and July 1st (when the new budget goes into effect) unless the federal government bails them out (which is fairly unlikely). Unemployment in the state is about 11.5% before these layoffs (meaning over 4 million people in the state are unemployed), and this will probably be increasing for another four to five months at least.

People who live here and have great educational degrees (including law degrees, and MBAs from top schools), and lots of great job experience are having a very difficult time finding regular work--and even many students off from high school and college for the summer can't find simple lower-paying jobs, so don't be surprised if this may not be the best time to come to California looking for work.

Some other states are doing worse (Michigan and South Carolina) and some states are doing about the same as California (for example, New York, Oregon, and Florida), but most are doing much better (Texas, Virginia, Washington, and the rest). You would be well-advised to consider looking for work in other states than California for that reason (and not because we think you are going to take our jobs--because, quite bluntly--we don't have any for you to take).

Enjoy

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