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1. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

To limit opportunities to work on the travelguide?

For example not during your first week/month of membership.

2. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

I'm not sure.. why would we want to do this? Often this is the reason people sign up. Would be a shame to miss out on their edits.

3. Posted by boulderman (Respected Member 418 posts) 7y

Casn you what you are both gettign at.

I think we should be a POLL to see what people use TP for, mainly - one answer allowed only or wait it.

4. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Oh, and should point out that you are somewhat limited at first - not by date, but by membertitle.

Ie, some articles are locked. Are you suggesting this restriction by time only applies to locked articles. That makes a little more sense to me actually.

5. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Quoting Peter

I'm not sure.. why would we want to do this? Often this is the reason people sign up. Would be a shame to miss out on their edits.

Uhm, I have to disagree here peter. First only a several people make contributions. Second of all, people editing the guide who just signed up post copied stuff and/or spam in many cases.

[ Edit: Edited on 24-Feb-2009, at 05:06 by Utrecht ]

6. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting Peter

I'm not sure.. why would we want to do this? Often this is the reason people sign up. Would be a shame to miss out on their edits.

Uhm, I have to disagree here peter. First only a several people make contributions. Second of all, people editing the guide who just signed up post copied stuff and/or spam in many cases.

Hmm, maybe my comment didn't make sense. When I say "often this is the reason they sign up", I'm referring to new members who are posting in the guide.

Yes, a lot of these can be spam. But some of these are also genuine contributors and I don't think we want to scare such members away. We've always had a very trusting approach to new members and I don't really want to change that. Consider Lavafalls who started writing very soon after signing up and look what he's contributed so far: 1.2 million characters! I just don't think it would be in our interest to make it any harder to edit the guide. We're already more strict than wikipedia or wikitravel who just allow anyone to edit without even being logged in!

Plus, there's nothing to say that someone who has been online for a month would actually contribute useful content. We've also had plenty of people who have been members for ages start contributing and then turn out to be spammers.

On the other hand, the editing of featured articles or locked articles is perhaps something that could be partially time based. Currently featured articles are open to any Full Member, but considering it isn't really that hard to make it to Full Member, this might be a bit too easy. Locked articles are only open to Respected Members + , but even that could be relatively easily achieved through heavy editing. Maybe for these situations where a bit of experience is useful, it might be better to also filter by date. Or perhaps by number of contributions instead of member title.

7. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting Peter

I'm not sure.. why would we want to do this? Often this is the reason people sign up. Would be a shame to miss out on their edits.

Uhm, I have to disagree here peter. First only a several people make contributions. Second of all, people editing the guide who just signed up post copied stuff and/or spam in many cases.

I think what Peter meant is you don't want to take away a reason for people to sign up and we really don't want to annoy new users who are signing up with only the best of intentions! Naturally we're no fan of the spammers that join either, but to let them ruin the experience for others by limiting the usage of the majority of members is just really user unfriendly. The more restrictions in place, the harder it is to get more people contributing which is really one of our bigger goals for the year. The wiki is also more self-policing than the forums, since anyone can undo anyone else's edits, whereas in the forums often things get stuck in a moderation queue for a while.

8. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 7y

Ok, I knew it was just an idea
Thanks for the answers guys.
Still bother me though. It is not user unfriendly, just newbie unfriendly. I mean a week...come one.
It is not all about new people, the current members are much more important in my opinion.
But ok, I just have a different view upon things I guess
I am not popping up this idea without reason you know.
And I agree: Lavafalls is the positive exception. I guess he wouldn't added anything if he couldn't for the first week

[ Edit: Edited on 24-Feb-2009, at 06:40 by Utrecht ]

9. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

Ok, I knew it was just an idea
Thanks for the answers guys.
Still bother me though. It is not user unfriendly, just newbie unfriendly. I mean a week...come one.
It is not all about new people, the current members are much more important in my opinion.
But ok, I just have a different view upon things I guess

The problem is that new members will never become 'die hard long term members' if you make their first week on a site difficult. From my own experience I know that there's a few days I'll try a site and if it doesn't work for me, it'd never be visited again. If I came across something that I knew was incorrect I'd want to correct it straightaway. In fact, in that regard I'd prefer it to be open to all to edit without even being members, but ...

10. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

It is not all about new people, the current members are much more important in my opinion.

The current members are of course exceptional and we love them all!! :)

Seriously though, we really really appreciate the current members. A site like ours is only ever as good as the sum of its users; and Travellerspoint is fantastic ;) Just want to make sure we keep newer users happy too so that they can become 'current users' in a years time