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1. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

I wish I could make this statement by 2010, that I have travelled the whole of Asia.

Asia, can be defined in terms of what some scholars exclude in their studies. Asia excludes, South Asia, India, for it is a subcontinent and The Middle East or West Asia. Mongolia is Central Asia. So Asia is, in some books, East Asia.

So we are left with 3 North East Asian countries (excluding north Korea).
and 10 Southeast Asian countries, plus East Timor, which makes the list a total of 14 COUNTRIES.

So you have 14 countries. I regret not crossing the border to Brunei, when I was in Labuan island.
I still need 4 countries... I also regret not taking the ferry from Penang to Sumatra. Even if its just to get the stamp.

Atleast, I've done the landlocked or peninsular southeast asia tour.

We can't see the whole world, but its nice to think that you've covered an entire continent.

2. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 7y

You can debate about countries like Georgia and Armenia, but Saudi Arabia, India and Mongolia are definately Asia

I had to laugh though about you breaking down all those pieces until you are left with East Asia, but then again exclude North Korea for your benefits

3. Posted by soliqa (Respected Member 284 posts) 7y

I reckon Asia definitely includes quite a few countries of the ones you've excluded - especially India and North Korea!

That said I've been to 4 of the 'East Asian' countries (5 if you include your plane landing in the country, and then taking off again without ever getting off it!), but hope to add more to that list soon!

4. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

I wasn't born yet, when western scholars of Asian Studies published books that defined Asia, in terms of what it "can" exclude.
As much as I would like to take credit for this concept, it aint mine. And I am not interested in playing scholarly by debating against a truism.

Like I said, India is south Asia and the middle east is West Asia. But Asia in so many Asian history books are the 13 countries of East Asia. You will not find India and Mongolia in a lot of books about Asia.;)

5. Posted by bwiiian (Travel Guru 768 posts) 7y

Western scholars also thought the world was flat. I think we all agree now that it isn't. I also think we can all agree now that India, Mongolia, The Middle-East etc are in Asia. Sorry Swept Away,but you cant discount these countries just because you have never been there, Good try though!!

6. Posted by soliqa (Respected Member 284 posts) 7y

As uncultured as I may be I'm still sticking with Wikipedia's version of Asia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia

7. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

Quoting Utrecht

You can debate about countries like Georgia and Armenia, but Saudi Arabia, India and Mongolia are definately Asia

I had to laugh though about you breaking down all those pieces until you are left with East Asia, but then again exclude North Korea for your benefits

Saudi Arabia, Arabs are caucasians.
India is a subcontinent and a civilization with a very distinct culture.
Mongolia, yes it should not be excluded.
But it's a huge land of steppes and slopes and its totally in a league of its own.

And in my globe/map, Tibet and Taiwan, are parts of China, so I am only counting 14. But since I have been to HK and Macau, I don't mind if they want to be called countries or even continents.

8. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

Quoting bwiiian

Western scholars also thought the world was flat.

There is such a thing as European Music. But Asian Music? For example, MTV ASIA, India will not be part of MTV ASIA awards.
Asia is the world's largest continent, that is from your GEOGRAPHY class. It was decided by the same Western scholars who thought that the world was flat.

I just based my definition of Asia on literatures about history and culture. The concept of Asia was defined in the era of international predation. There was no cultural basis. I am sure the Indians dont want to join MTV ASIA awards and compete with the ORIENTAL POP STARS. Do we refer to Indians and Arabs as Oriental, well that is sooo 1920's.

9. Posted by bwiiian (Travel Guru 768 posts) 7y

Quoting Swept Away

Quoting bwiiian

Western scholars also thought the world was flat.

There is such a thing as European Music. But Asian Music? For example, MTV ASIA, India will not be part of MTV ASIA awards.
Asia is the world's largest continent, that is from your GEOGRAPHY class. It was decided by the same Western scholars who thought that the world was flat.

I just based my definition of Asia on literatures about history and culture. The concept of Asia was defined in the era of international predation. There was no cultural basis. I am sure the Indians dont want to join MTV ASIA awards and compete with the ORIENTAL POP STARS. Do we refer to Indians and Arabs as Oriental, well that is sooo 1920's.

The whole concept of continents comes from geography lessons! The world is not really split into continents, it is all political, so therefore by your reckoning the whole world is either one big continent or just a load of different countries, which are also just the imaginations of scholars and politicians. BUT in the modern world, yes this is the 21st century, if we talk about continents then it is best if we all sing from the same song sheet or we will just be running round in circles for ever.
If you want to base how continents are split by song contests then we have to say that Israel and Turkey are both European, as they enter into the Eurovision Song Contest every year. But then that would be a silly idea wouldn't it? Also there is an MTV Europe but also An MTV UK so does that mean the UK is not a part of Europe?

10. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 7y

Quoting Swept Away

Quoting Utrecht

You can debate about countries like Georgia and Armenia, but Saudi Arabia, India and Mongolia are definately Asia

I had to laugh though about you breaking down all those pieces until you are left with East Asia, but then again exclude North Korea for your benefits

Saudi Arabia, Arabs are caucasians.
India is a subcontinent and a civilization with a very distinct culture.
Mongolia, yes it should not be excluded.
But it's a huge land of steppes and slopes and its totally in a league of its own.

And in my globe/map, Tibet and Taiwan, are parts of China, so I am only counting 14. But since I have been to HK and Macau, I don't mind if they want to be called countries or even continents.

Does your country see Taiwan as independent nation?
Morocco is totally different from Botswana, both are African.
Just to give some examples. It is best to think for yourself indeed, but within some broader context. Hongkong as a continent...well ok. I think Cebu is the capital of the Phillippines