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1. Posted by kkool (Budding Member 34 posts) 7y

Dear fellow travellers - help!

As part of a South American tour, We've got 7 days and 6 nights to spend in Brazil. This will cap-off our South American trip before we head back to UK. South American tour is from24/07 - 06/08.

Arrival and departure airports in Brazil is Sao Paulo so I can't change this. We are landing in Brazil (Sao paulo) at 3pm.

So the dilema..... Can anyone advise me on how many nights we should spend in each city as going to Rio is a must (tourist attractions, beach e.t.c). My initial thought was to get a coach between SP to RJ and back to Sp to catch plane out of Brazil.

Also, I'll appreciate it if I can get a list of to do in the time frame.

Thanks a lot in advance

Kkool

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3. Posted by way2goeh (Full Member 159 posts) 7y

I live in Sao Paulo and this answer is easy. Sao Paulo is a financial centre, NOT a tourist city. Yes, theres things to do here but unless you speak portuguese to go to the arts, its time wasted. Sure we have bars and restaurants, but thats it. Rio, on the other hand is a tourist city. So many beaches to choose from. But keep these two things in mind. #1. ITs winter here in July. Sao Paulo will be around 12C and Rio about 18C. It will not be warm, even for the beaches. The water wont be warm either(about 16C). #2. Rio is more dangerous than Sao Paulo. If you go to Rio, go where the toursists go. Plain and simple. If I were you, you can go to Salvador or Recife for about 200 dollars. Especially in Recife, the beaches are better and of course warmer. Below is the buses to rio and gol airlines.

http://www.voegol.com.br/Paginas/home.aspx

http://www.passagem-em-domicilio.com.br/index.asp?w_cc=&w_referrer=/terminal-tiete.asp

[ Edit: Edited on 09-Mar-2009, at 18:48 by way2goeh ]

4. Posted by way2goeh (Full Member 159 posts) 7y

Ive just realized that Ive told you this before.

5. Posted by BHammer301 (Budding Member 33 posts) 7y

ohh man you have got to stay in RIO!!! I have been to both and tho I didn't spend much time in sao paolo, I didn't see much to do.

Rio is loaded with tourist attractions. Do a little research before you go. I stayed at Rio backpackers just a few block from Copacabana and a few more from ipnema beach. Rooms were clean and the staff was EXCELLENT.!! I would suggest a company called "be a local." they run cheap tours in the favellas and even to the futbol games. But if you relly want to be a local you should do it yourself.

Cheers,

Billy

6. Posted by kkool (Budding Member 34 posts) 7y

Quoting BHammer301

ohh man you have got to stay in RIO!!! I have been to both and tho I didn't spend much time in sao paolo, I didn't see much to do.

Rio is loaded with tourist attractions. Do a little research before you go. I stayed at Rio backpackers just a few block from Copacabana and a few more from ipnema beach. Rooms were clean and the staff was EXCELLENT.!! I would suggest a company called "be a local." they run cheap tours in the favellas and even to the futbol games. But if you relly want to be a local you should do it yourself.

Cheers,

Billy

Billy thanksabunch.

I've bee researching on some tourist attractions and i know it'll be a pleasant stay.

Cheers,

Kkool

7. Posted by Bahiana77 (Budding Member 25 posts) 7y

Please tell me you're not suggesting doing a favela tour "by yourself".
Note that most of the favela tours are run and operated by people who do not live in the community (Rocinha), so the majority of the money benefits no one who lives there. Some tours just 'jeep' you in and out.
A tour offered by the English speaking guide and funk DJ Zezinho, who lives in the neighborhood and greets his friends as he walks people around, is an exceptional opportunity to really get to know the place and meet some locals.
Contact him at:
faveladodarocinha at hotmail dot com

8. Posted by BHammer301 (Budding Member 33 posts) 7y

Please tell me you're not suggesting doing a favela tour "by yourself".

I did the tour with bealocal which is very similar to what you were talking about. Even got to ride on motortaxis.

Then I went in again without a tour guide. It was me and a friend with a Brazilian guy we met while having drinks. Yea it was a little crazy and very dangerous but not many people can say they did that. The story sounds unbelievable but we took photos with the street patrolmen guns for a few bucks. But don't point your camera in their direction. they don't like to be photographed.

This is not something I recommend to any one! But if you get anything from this story it is to keep in mind that you don't need a tour guide to hold your hand everywhere you go

9. Posted by Bahiana77 (Budding Member 25 posts) 7y

If I get anything from this story it's that it is almost criminally irresponsible to recommend tourists go into a favela alone.
Thrill seeking is not a reason to go into a favela.
The best way to get to know locals of all socio-economic levels is to learn a little Portuguese and go meet them on the beach where everyone gathers.
Also, you do understand that the mototaxis pay the druglords for the priviledge of operating in the favela, so you are supporting this type of corruption by patronizing them.
And I don't believe Bealocal is not run by people who live in the favela. Those few tours who use locals pay exploitive wages in comparison to their own profits.

10. Posted by BHammer301 (Budding Member 33 posts) 7y

no two tourists are the same bud.

bealocal gives a large portion of its profits to day cares and schools inside the Favelas. They actually own and operate a few and they take you there on the tour! You should try them some time.