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1. Posted by emilie18 (Budding Member 2 posts) 7y

Ok I know overstaying is not good and you shouldnt mess with that but... personal choice right? I'm young so maybe i'll face the concequences later but then I better get enough of Europe while I'm there so I can go without it for five years and just plan trip to South America, Russia, UK, East Europe instead! Ok my question is that if I overstay by a month or two in Paris, then travel on BUS or TRAIN or BOAT(I might be too scared to take a plane if i've overstayed) I traveled from Paris to Amsterdam, or France to Germany to Italy, Italy to Greece, or France to Spain, so basically if I overstayed and then traveled anywhere within the Schengen agreement area (where you are suppose to be able to travel freely without going through immigration??) If i'm traveling through somewhere like france to italy will they check my passport coming into italy on the train, will I have to go through immigration? if my passport is not stamped will they just check it to make sure i'm not wanted by the law or something? So I know I've asked a lot of questions but main one is after the 90days is up can I still travel freely within the Schengen area's without being caught for overstaying?

2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

after the 90days is up can I still travel freely within the Schengen area's without being caught for overstaying?

No. You can travel freely, there are no immigration controls, but customs frequently checks for illegal immigrants. They do this everywhere, not just at the border, but mostly in buses, trains, ferries and on major roads.

I say, go bite the bullet and get a WHV visa. The fee for applying doesn't kill you. Heck the French don't even ask for any funds that are yours, as long as you can get a relative fund the trip for you. (Make an agreement - they sign the papers for you, but you won't touch the money.)

http://anyworkanywhere.com/whvcacit.html

http://www.ambafrance-ca.org/IMG/pdf/VISA_2E_ENr_final.pdf

http://www.ottawa.diplo.de/Vertretung/ottawa/en/06/education/datei__brochure__yma,property=Daten.pdf

[ Edit: Edited on 25-Mar-2009, at 13:36 by t_maia ]

3. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 7y

Second that. Overstaying is a bad idea.

It can seriously diminish your chances of ever being readmitted to the Schengen area. Besides, as Maia already stated, even though border formalities within the zone have been abolished, checks are still very frequent.

Third, not many people seem to realise that overstaying your visa, depending on circumstances, may be prosecuted as a criminal offense in a number of Schengen member countries. This means that you run a real risk of going home with a criminal record, which not just hinders future plans but also your career back home.

[ Edit: Edited on 27-Mar-2009, at 04:18 by bentivogli ]

4. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 7y

If you do end up with a criminal record like bentivogli is talking about, the consequences can not just mean being denied in to Western Europe but some other countries around the world will not give you a visa with a criminal record especially if they found out it was for breaking the rules of your visa do you would be considered high risk of reoffending.

5. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 7y

I should have added that my doom scenario concerns a somewhat theoretical possibility, and chances of this happening to someone from the western hemisphere are very slim. But, it is possible, and it does happen. It better not be you, and it's soooo easy to avoid.