I am looking to travel towards Peru making my way through Bolivia and maybe Argentina, I have been told that a good way to do this is to do the "train through the clouds" from Salta in Arg to a place in Chile then go up through Bolivia doing the Salt Flats!
Does anyone know if either of these are any good and if so do you know of prices at all? Would it be cheaper to just travel to Peru by bus through Bolivia?
As far as I know Chile is more expensive (or less cheaper) than Argentina, being Bolivia the cheapest one. I have been in Argentina and Bolivia.
I have not been in Salta because the lack of time.
Hi from Argentina!
I have travelled with the "Tren de las Nubes" from Salta to San Antonio de los Cobres. Depending the season, sometimes it reaches to border with Chile. You should take the popular, the "public", and not the touristic, in order to know real Argentina. Another reason is the price....the first one cost 15 pesos, and the other one more than 100...
I have also travelled to Bolivia, and Perú, write me if you think i can help u.
I would recomend you to travel to Buenos Aires, and from there to Provincia de Jujuy, in the North of Argentina. From La Quiaca, Provincia de Jujuy, you can cross the border to Villazón, Bolivia, and make your way to the Salar de Uyuni, then go east to Potosí, north to La Paz, Lago Titicaca, cross to Cusco and visit Machu Picchu...I ´ve done it in 2002. Then you can do your way south via Chile, till Santiago, and corss the Argentinian border to Mendoza, and back to Buenos Aires.
Hope I make myself understood
you can see some photographs in www.leobarragan.50megs.com
or at my profile.
As Leo says, the train it cost 100, but DOLLARS.
Is very expensive because is just for tourists.
The normal train it takes double of the time, and if you don't know Spanish to talk with people, will be boring, or, if you are not a local, even dangerous.
It's better to cross to Chile for Mendoza, or from Salta to go directly to Bolivia via Jujuy - Quebrada de Humahuara (old part of inca south path).
Don't hesitate in asking me by private email.
Have a good trip.
[ Edit: Link not to a real site ]
Sorry; typing mistake: "Quebrada de Humahuaca"
The common "Tren de las Nubes" is very cheap, I have travelled with it, and it is not dangerous at all...You´ll find no risks at all in small towns of my country. If you take it in January, you will be travelling with many other tourists, so you won´t have problem with your language. But I don´t know wether it´s reaching Socompa or not.
I recommend, as juanka does, to cross the border to Bolivia via "La Quiaca-Villazón", through Quebrada de Humahuaca.
Thanks alot for all your replies! It will be very helpful! Just a couple more things, is the Train through the clouds any good? I have heard that it is but what your opinion as well! Where exactly does it finish? And can I get to La Paz from there? Another question as well about the Salt Deserts in Sal Y Unis (I think that is how it is spelt) does anyone know of prices of excursions around here? Are they any good? etc etc
Cheers again, Luke
Soory, but I must disagree with Leo.
Tren de las Nubes DOESN'T RUN ON SUMMER,
because the very high temperature during
the day makes the trip impossible to resist.
Just April to November.
You can see the full info in this page:
(Leo... buscá antes de escribir...)
About Salar de Uyuni,
you can find the right location in this map:
and the main page http://www.tupizatours.com
to find the explanation of the tour to there.
The information juanka has found it´s ok, but it is about the Tourist Train, and not about common citizens take, as i had written before. If you read my post, you´ll see i highly recommend the second one, for its price and in order to know REAL Argentina, and not Argentina FOR TOURSITS. Nevertheless, you have to check if it work on summer. The train i am talking about used to cost 15 pesos 4 years ago (5 dolars), from Salta to San Antonio de los Cobres. Now it should be more expensive. That trains used to leave Salta on wednesday mornings and reach S.A.C at night, making halts in the little towns on the way. I stopped at S.A.C., but you could continue untill Socompa, on the chilean border if the weather helped you.
I don´t know how much time are you planning to travel; but if you are short I would recommend to visit directly "La Quebrada de Humahuaca" and some little towns of the Puna, and then cross to Bolivia via "La Quiaca". After the border you´ll be at Villazón, Bolivia, where you can take buses or, if you are lucky, the train to Uyuni, a beautiful Salar. There you can go on an expedition to the Salar, Laguna Verde, Laguna Roja, Laguna Hedionda, etc., geisers, termal waters, volcanoes, deserts...etc. When I travelled there, 3 years ago, it costed 40 dolars renting a 4x4, a driver, a cooker, the passes for the nationals parks, food, bed....Now it should be a bit more expensive, and i imagine they try to make english speakers pay trough theirs nose...
write again if you think i can help you...
In my page you can see some photographs of the salar, the 4x4 and Laguna Verde