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11. Posted by gr8honor (Budding Member 11 posts) 7y

Quoting WebGuy

When are you leaving dude?

I assume you mean me. I'm head out in December, 09'

... some advice on the parents. Tell them about your trip - when you are gone. Since you'll likely be sending your friends photos, blogs etc., why not toss them some info as well: it will undoubtedly have a positive impact when they see you enjoying yourself in destinations and locals they've only heard about.

Good luck compadre'

- Derek

12. Posted by WebGuy (Full Member 106 posts) 7y

Oh yeah, they for sure know. Told them a few weeks ago.

13. Posted by trainrider (Full Member 95 posts) 7y

I just wanted to say good on ya and wish you all the best for your trip!! You wont regret it. Im 29 and was in a job myself for 7 years before leaving and although I took my 1 month holiday each year to travel, i'd been employed since leaving school and had never done the big trip that many of my friends had. It feels great to jack it all in and leave, a real sense of freedom!

I've met several American travellers, but not many. Seems its not as acceptable for you guys as it is for many others. Two weeks holiday a year, whats all that about?!

14. Posted by gr8honor (Budding Member 11 posts) 7y

Quoting trainrider

I just wanted to say good on ya and wish you all the best for your trip!! You wont regret it. Im 29 and was in a job myself for 7 years before leaving and although I took my 1 month holiday each year to travel, i'd been employed since leaving school and had never done the big trip that many of my friends had. It feels great to jack it all in and leave, a real sense of freedom!

I've met several American travellers, but not many. Seems its not as acceptable for you guys as it is for many others. Two weeks holiday a year, whats all that about?!

Good to hear!

To address the US viewpoint on travel:

It’s all about capitalism, my friend, capitalism. The viewpoint is that competition is too fierce to take long vacations with a fear of losing your job. This combined with the "spend it now" society creating dependence on a paycheck-to-paycheck basis, a sense of isolation due to geographic location, ignorance, and the "America is so great, why ever leave?" mentality.

- Derek

15. Posted by fabyomama (Respected Member 560 posts) 7y

Because America is so big and has so much geographical variety (including weather), maybe they don't feel the need to travel as much as those from smaller, one climate, countries. I believe the most prolific travelers around are Kiwis. Great people too.

I think it's Aussies next, or the Irish. There must be some stats somewhere.

[ Edit: Edited on 03-Jun-2009, at 19:19 by fabyomama ]

16. Posted by WebGuy (Full Member 106 posts) 7y

I'm from American and I see it as we don't travel as much as others because we are breed to work as soon as we are able to, and to find the best job possible, stay there, and not do anything to jeopardize it. We get 2 weeks a year for vacation and most people don't use it and let their hours stack up. A lot of places I have worked have looked down on taking long vacations as much as a majority of us don't like taking vacations.

Taking a vacation means leaving for a week or more, cramming massive hours before the trip to make sure we have all the work angles covered and then when we get back, we cram more hours trying to catch up. It's a catch 22 in the States. Plus, 40 hours is the norm for work weeks, but a majority of us work much more than that and some jobs expect it.

The US is a work till you drop environment. Its gotten to the point that if I take a 3 or 4 day vacation, which usually includes the weekend, so really 1 or 2 days off work, I feel like I need to get back and continue working. If I'm gone for a week, I feel useless and have to go back to work which means I cut my vacation early. When I go home for the day after work, I feel like I need to be on the computer, close to my email in case something happens and I need to respond. Jobs don't really support the "take time off to whine down" mode. Its all go or not at all.

Can't wait to start my trip and get rid of this damn 'need' to work!

17. Posted by trainrider (Full Member 95 posts) 7y

Does the land of the free really exist?

Surely this attitude towards a persons freedom to travel or to merely take a break from the stresses of work is a slight against ones freedom? In fact the right to break free, to rest is surely the most fundamental freedom of all?

Has the word freedom become just a buzzword, propaganda to silence the masses?

I realise this is going "off topic" but I find it really interesting.

[ Edit: Edited on 04-Jun-2009, at 16:34 by trainrider ]

18. Posted by WebGuy (Full Member 106 posts) 7y

Quoting trainrider

Does the land of the free really exist?

Surely this attitude towards a persons freedom to travel or to merely take a break from the stresses of work is a slight against ones freedom? In fact the right to break free, to rest is surely the most fundamental freedom of all?

Has the word freedom become just a buzzword, propaganda to silence the masses?

I realise this is going "off topic" but I find it really interesting.

Nope. It's the land of the Corporations! Look at the cost of our health care! It's outrageous! But we HAVE to work so we can get medical insurance at a lower rate, through work. If you pay on your own, well, good luck. This is one of the main reasons why so many people don't have Health Ins. in the States.

If you are able and make enough money, then you have some freedom. Americans work 40-60 hour weeks and still get told we aren't doing enough. A lot of people work two jobs, or work one job and have a small side business. But having small businesses puts you at a disadvantage because we pay higher taxes than the Corporations. And we work this much to make that money so we can buy those "things" everyone else has. I admit, that's why I worked my ass off for so long. To have the nice car, the nice place, all the cool gadgets and stuff. It's worse in California. I can't count how many times I've met a girl and one of their first questions was "What kind of car do you drive?". It's all about status quo.

Our freedom to travel is based on how much we work. If you're a part timer, you're screwed. Most full time and salary employees save up Vacation time to use it later all at once, or get that whole check when they leave the job. And if you go over a certain amount, whoops, your bad. They take away the overage vacation time and you lose it.

I've only had one boss insist I take Vacations, all the others, it was deny first, then accept after you agreed to shorten the trip.

But then you look at the people running the companies and the Execs... They take 3-4 vacations a year, schedule business meetings and trips at extravagant resorts (Enron, Citi, Clear Channel, etc...), they work and meet for a day or two, and spend a week vacationing on the companies dime.

Work, work, work and you might make it high enough to enjoy those perks. Otherwise, we work to make their life better. There's a funny saying I hear quite often.. "If you work full time and have a good marriage, you aren't doing enough at work. If you're marriage is breaking up and going downhill, then you deserve a promotion at work" (something like that, I know I probably messed it up)

19. Posted by gr8honor (Budding Member 11 posts) 7y

On the other hand. It is possible if you aren't entirely concerned with having heaps of money to get a traditional blue collar job and work, save money and vacation time, and travel.

Often times people become teachers for the 3 months off to travel. Otherwise, people take advantage of the "in-between" work/school phenomenon to accomplish their travel aspirations – this is something we are seeing particularly today with disillusioned employees deciding the cubicle isn't for them and traveling the world ~ achem….like ME!!!! =)

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