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1. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

First you lose a shampoo and other toliletries. It means someone pathetic enough exist in the hostel space.
Take is as a warning of more things to lose. Then you lose your locker keys, I lost it twice and the hostel charge me a trillion dollars. Shameless and stupid, because I will write them a very bad review, when I end my 09 tour.
I become paranoid with locals overstaying in hostels.

Well, my point is some hostels, have what I'd call GIANT BED BUGS, they suck on your resources and live in hostels to steal from other travellers. Well, other travelers also do that, but the bed bugs are those that overstay and don't even bother to pretend that they are travellers.

It's nice to meet local people, even if some of them are out to stalk foreigners with their noble goal of learning how to speak English or sleep with foreigners (The latter being a more noble objective). But I really dont feel save anymore, when I know that some of these creatures are living in the hostels. They are not even loosers from some exotic countries. These are locals, who carry a kitchen showcase in their trollies and live among travellers.

What makes me angry is that the hostels should know their target market. Make up their mind. Do they want backpackers or do they want to be a BOARDING HOUSE for local people.

Okay, if your lose money in a hostel, who do you think is the most likely suspect, a.) the Scandinavian teenagers with their government funded Spring break , b.) The perky Koreans or Japanese who is way too happy to leave their society for a few months or d.) the locals, who just dont fit in the hostel interior design ( I mean they really look like they have no bussiness staying an ultra cheap backpacker space.) They are just occupying precious real estate, which could have been for a Vietnamese or Thai tourist.

They are not even friendly. Some of them actually despise foreigners and you'd guess it by body language, since they cant speak English. Well if they can, they would get a job and not live to steal from people on a holiday.

I guess I am also stupid for leaving cash on my pants and leave it under my bed before I sleep. I forgot that I have other room mates. It may seem unfair, that I am not even thinking, that perhaps it was my Scandinavian drinking buddies who would dig through my pants to steal some cash.

I think the hostels should worry about travellers being robbed and start to think of the suspects. It may just be a shampoo or a tooth paste. But sick people steal not for the money, some of them steal, because they are just sick or envious of other people, who they assume is so rich, because we can afford to take train rides to places they will never visit in this life.

2. Posted by Annie0 (Full Member 127 posts) 7y

Quoting Swept Away

First you lose a shampoo and other toliletries. It means someone pathetic enough exist in the hostel space.
Take is as a warning of more things to lose. Then you lose your locker keys, I lost it twice and the hostel charge me a trillion dollars. Shameless and stupid, because I will write them a very bad review, when I end my 09 tour.
I become paranoid with locals overstaying in hostels.

Well, my point is some hostels, have what I'd call GIANT BED BUGS, they suck on your resources and live in hostels to steal from other travellers. Well, other travelers also do that, but the bed bugs are those that overstay and don't even bother to pretend that they are travellers.

It's nice to meet local people, even if some of them are out to stalk foreigners with their noble goal of learning how to speak English or sleep with foreigners (The latter being a more noble objective). But I really dont feel save anymore, when I know that some of these creatures are living in the hostels. They are not even loosers from some exotic countries. These are locals, who carry a kitchen showcase in their trollies and live among travellers.

What makes me angry is that the hostels should know their target market. Make up their mind. Do they want backpackers or do they want to be a BOARDING HOUSE for local people.

Okay, if your lose money in a hostel, who do you think is the most likely suspect, a.) the Scandinavian teenagers with their government funded Spring break , b.) The perky Koreans or Japanese who is way too happy to leave their society for a few months or d.) the locals, who just dont fit in the hostel interior design ( I mean they really look like they have no bussiness staying an ultra cheap backpacker space.) They are just occupying precious real estate, which could have been for a Vietnamese or Thai tourist.

They are not even friendly. Some of them actually despise foreigners and you'd guess it by body language, since they cant speak English. Well if they can, they would get a job and not live to steal from people on a holiday.

I guess I am also stupid for leaving cash on my pants and leave it under my bed before I sleep. I forgot that I have other room mates. It may seem unfair, that I am not even thinking, that perhaps it was my Scandinavian drinking buddies who would dig through my pants to steal some cash.

I think the hostels should worry about travellers being robbed and start to think of the suspects. It may just be a shampoo or a tooth paste. But sick people steal not for the money, some of them steal, because they are just sick or envious of other people, who they assume is so rich, because we can afford to take train rides to places they will never visit in this life.

U dont seem to be having a good 09 tour!!!!! Gey ur black belt on!!!

3. Posted by Blinq (Inactive 341 posts) 7y

Go Couchsurfing instead. The FAQ page explains how it all works.

4. Posted by Dodger (Inactive 875 posts) 7y

Quoting Swept Away

First you lose a shampoo and other toliletries.
Take is as a warning of more things to lose. Then you lose your locker keys, I lost it twice and the hostel charge me a trillion dollars. Shameless and stupid,

Wait which one is stupid?

First off I'm guessing you left your toiletries in the bathroom. Ive been to so many hostels where selfish people do this. they leave all their shit laying all over the place, so you cant put your shampoo out on a shelf while your showering. Yeah I'd probably use your stuff too if you left it around. Most of the time this stuff gets left behind, because the dumb ass forgot to pack it when he left, so it sits on the shelves taking up space for months, before someone realizes the person isnt at the hostel anymore. sheesh

This next one is awesome. You not only loose the locker key once, but your stupid enough to loose it twice and then you get mad because the hostel charges you.!! Did you ever think that the hostel wants to impress upon you a little responsibility in NOT LOSING your key. you failed, and so you have to pay the price. They not only have to replace the key, but if they are conscientious they would have to replace the lock, because now there are lost keys floating around out there.

5. Posted by loubylou (Travel Guru 664 posts) 7y

Quoting Annie0

U dont seem to be having a good 09 tour!!!!! Gey ur black belt on!!!

Sweptaway never seems to have a good time when he is away, most posts made by him on here are complaints! I have to agree with Dodger, if staying in a hostel in a dorm you can't leave things lying around...even when we stay in a private room we don't leave things lying around when we get it cleaned, everything is locked away.

If you leave money in your trousers and then leave them near to or under your bed, why are you surprised this money is stolen? The same with the locker key...most hostels make it clear if you lose the key you have to pay - it's reasonable as the hostel would lose a lot of money if they didn't make people pay for lost keys.

[ Edit: Edited on 25-Apr-2009, at 02:34 by loubylou ]

6. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

Quoting loubylou

Quoting Annie0

U dont seem to be having a good 09 tour!!!!! Gey ur black belt on!!!

Sweptaway never seems to have a good time when he is away, most posts made by him on here are complaints! :

Most post? I'm sorry, I dont document or remember my post, so I can't argue against your assertion. Unless you have made a career following my threads and analyzing them, while you were writing my autobiography, then you must be right.

What do you want to do? Label people? identify them as pessimist base on your insecurities. Burn them at stake for having a point of view. Punish people for having the skill to express themselves.

It is an international forum and it is about ideas rather personalities. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU EVER WROTE. But I guess you never make sense with your literature, unless someone is threaten by it. The simple solution is not to read the threads of people you CHOOSE TO HATE.

7. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

Quoting Dodger

Quoting Swept Away

First you lose a shampoo and other toliletries.
Take is as a warning of more things to lose. Then you lose your locker keys, I lost it twice and the hostel charge me a trillion dollars. Shameless and stupid,

Wait which one is stupid?

I did say I am stupid.... if you read the whole thing. But no I dont leave stuff in the bathrooms and yes I would use a shampoo left in the bathroom by other people. I lost the shampoos in the room. The hostel gave us keys that don't work, so some of the travellers leave our door open. I paid for keys that don't even work.

I know I have my faults and the issue is not about who is being stupid. I returned other people's key to the receptionist and these are very smart people.

I raised questions and instead of answers or ideas, I get insults. I guess its more convenient to call someone stupid rather than deal with his logic and sense of humor. Is this the effect of having too many reality shows?

8. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

The thread is clearly a question, "is not good?" as stated in the tittle. This is a forum thread and not a blog entry.
I am not advocating a religion, but a legitimate question, one that has haunted my thoughts recently.

I do feel bad about having this idea of banning locals in the hostels. Maybe I was just angry or maybe there is a world out there who can relate to my experience or thoughts. Precisely, why I asked, "If its good".

Unfortunately, hatred, which is the son of a bitch called insecurity, is more convenient than logic and English grammar and composition. So instead of dealing with arguements, which is the essence of a forum, we resort to labellings and my favorite, the "I agree with member#127, that member # 12 is bad, now I am cool too."

9. Posted by Swept Away (Travel Guru 1113 posts) 7y

Quoting Blinq

Go Couchsurfing instead. The FAQ page explains how it all works.

I lost my password and I cant seem to get it back... so I quit.

But I'll try to fix it next month. Labor day strikes, and I think rates will soar.

10. Posted by loubylou (Travel Guru 664 posts) 7y

Quoting Swept Away

The simple solution is not to read the threads of people you CHOOSE TO HATE.

That's a bit strong isn't it? Where did I say I hated you? I'm quite insulted by that as I never said anything of the sort and neither has anyone else! I don't know you and it's only an observation I am making based on the few posts I have read of yours.

I only pointed out that there seems to be a trend with your posts to criticise or complain - no I haven't kept track but an overall impression I have is that you are very negative about places you visit...sorry if my observation offends you to the point that you insult me...

Back to your question in the OP - I don't think it would be fair to have a no locals policy in hostels there are still some people which go on holiday in their own countries who cannot afford hotels and need to stay in hostels. I don't think it's right to segregate locals and tourists. I personally don't care if locals stay in the same places that we choose to stay and of all the stories we have heard from fellow travellers who have had things stolen by locals we have heard of just as many who have had things stolen by other (Western) travellers.

I think the message to everyone who stays in hostels is to make sure all your possessions are hidden or locked away as when opportunity presents to some people they can't help but steal - whether these are locals or foreign travellers!