This is my very first post here - hello all ardent travellers!!!
We are a family from Malaysia and are making plans for our holiday in London/UK in December 2009 with our family of 6, comprising 2 parents and 4 children. Our children are 3 girls of ages 15, 12 and 9 and our son is 6 years old.
We will be there from 1 to 10 Dec. 2009.
My husband & I are still finalising the itineraries for our 10-day trip to the UK and we do have plans to venture and travel up North-West to Liverpool (driving) as we plan to visit a cousin who is studying there. We are also considering booking for a B & B nearby Liverpool, perhaps for a one night stay, or something along those plans.
Other than that, in between the 10-night stay, we also do plan to make a one-day trip to Paris, travelling via the Eurotrain. Will there be any tips of do's and dont's which you can share with us on these plans?
Can anyone propose to us what are the best routes to take; i.e travel to Liverpool as soon as arriving in London or stay and explore London first before travelling to Liverpool and followed by Paris. Has anyone here done anything similar? What considerations do we need to make when planning this sort of trip with 4 teenage children?
Are there any other better routes that anyone would recommend?
We need to get our travel plans finalised very soon as we need to make bookings for the B & B which we have identified recently.
Thank you all!
How much time do you have spare, to get from London to Liverpool??
Thank you for your response Redpaddy.
As for now, we thought of staying in London for 2 or 3 nights first, then travel up North-West to Liverpool & Manchester (I just remembered that my husband a real, crazy fan of MU) , before travelling back to London. We may need approximately 2 days to cover all those places, right? Do you think it will be sufficient?
Then again, will it be easy for us to find a B & B which will be able to cater for our alternate stays in London. Will they also allow us to keep our things at their place while we travel to Liverpool & Manchester?
These are some of the things which we may need some guidance from you guys!
For starters, the GB football season has ended until sometime (I think) in August.... Thank goodness. I live in Manchester and the fans give me a headache. There are trips around the Old Trafford Stadium every day though. Just turn up between about 9 and 3.
Bit by bit, a good place for a B&B near L'pool - is Chester. It's an old Roman city (with a complete original wall) and only about 40 minutes from Liverpool by car. Check out the river that flows in both directions at the same time, right in the city centre. Don't bother booking a B&B in advance. there are plenty of Travel-Lodges and Premier Inns in the region and they'll always have a room available. If you like something a little more rustic, then there are lots of farmhouses doing B&B, but they're a lot more expensive. They charge per person, whereas the Premier and Travel-Lodge charge per room.
Train to Liverpool.... London Euston to Liverpool Lime Street.... About 270 miles. Fantastic train - and doesn't take much longer than London Victoria to Portsmouth Harbour.... Less than 100 miles. Book your fares in advance with "The Train Line". It'll save you a fortune.
Train to Chester.... London Euston to Holyhead (direct to Chester), usually from platform 12.
The train to Paris is called "The Eurostar".
For a room in London - check out www.visitlondon.com It has everything you need to know, from hostels to The Ritz.
A one day trip from London to Paris?? I never heard of that. Tell me more. Paris is quite away from London and a day trip seems both pointless and very hard going. By the time you get there, even if you start off at 7am - it'll be a 2-3 hour wizz round the city and then it's time to come back.
I'm struggling with you doing all you plan to do, in 10 days. Sounds like fun though. Better than not doing it - for sure.
More from me if you want it.
Have you thought of taking the train to Liverpool from London, then flying (either Ryanair or Easyjet) to Paris from Liverpool then either flying back to London or getting the Eurotrain back? It would save you a lot of time. To save more time I would also book a B&B or hotel actually in Liverpool, there are loads to choose from, as there is lot to see and do in Liverpool.
Thank you for the valuable tips & information, especially the information on L'pool & Manchester. If the car rentals are cheaper than travelling by the trains, we may opt for this mode too, at least, we will be able to enjoy the sceneries & discover new things along the way.
We are also unaware of the fact that there are flights available fr L'pool straight to Paris & we'll check on that one too. If flying from L'pool to Paris saves a lot of our time, then, we might as well opt for this mode & take the Eurotrain back to London from Paris. At least, the children will have the experience and adventure which they will not forget.
We actually learnt about the day trip london-Paris from the webs & we gathered that they are commendable for very short-term travellers like us who want to get a little bit of experience of Europe
As for the B & Bs, don't you think that making the bookings for our stay much earlier will be of an advantage although there are hundreds of them all over England? Since there will be children travelling along, we just thought of making sure that our journey will be a well-planned & smooth one, hopefully..
Booking a room in advance is always a way to feel more secure. However, if for any reason you have to cancel the room once you've paid for it, then you might struggle to get your money back. Good point what bwiiian says about the flights to Paris from Liverpool. I still think a one day trip is not enough - although it's better than not doing it at all, for sure. EasyJet will do you a return to Paris (CDG) for under £50. Ryanair do not fly to any Paris airport from Liverpool. Neither Ryanair or EasyJet fly to Paris from Manchester - but you can get an EasyJet flight from London Luton to Paris (CDG) for pretty much the same price as the fare from Liverpool. Just be aware - if you don't know already, London Luton is a fair trek from London itself and the train fares (or buses) would start adding up to quite an expensive bill. There are no flights to Paris with either EasyJet or Ryanair from any other London airports. There is no railway station at Liverpool (John Lennon) Airport. A bus from Lime Street Station is around £3 one way for adults and the journey takes about 30 minutes.
[ Edit: Edited on 25-May-2009, at 09:35 by Redpaddy ]
Oooops, yea sorry about saying Easyjet AND Ryanair, it's just Easyjet that fly to Paris from Liverpool. I have done this flight and as you fly to CDG Airport it is very easy to get into the centre of Paris from there. Just get the train from the airport.
Just a little note about airport buses from Liverpool city centre to the airport. There is a special airport bus that gets you there the quickest for £3, but there are loads of other buses (82, 80, 86 and more) that also go to the airport from the city centre and these only cost £1.60 for an adult. I'm sure as you are visiting someone who lives in Liverpool that they can get you on the right bus.
[ Edit: Edited on 25-May-2009, at 20:32 by bwiiian ]
thank you very much you guys, we really appreciate your info. & advice and sort of buying the idea of spending at least one night in Paris, hopefully.
Our plans and itinerary looks clearer for now ... & hope that things will turn out as planned.
Nice to hear someone doing Liverpool - seriously.
I live less than an hour away - and about 5-6 times a year I spend the day there. So many Brits (sadly - that have never been there) do nothing but mock it. It has so much going on - and the people are just among the friendliest you'll ever meet.
If you'd like a little mini-guide, I'll happily oblige.