I have always wanted to live in a place that is very green. A place with some rich culture and History. I am a Mexican American citizen. Born in the US from Mexican parents. I am currently working on getting my bachelors degree in human development and plan to go for a masters in therapy. I am also the first person in my family to ever go to college...or even graduate from high school.
I come from a very poor family, my mother lived in the slums of Mexico and worked very hard for 20 years to become a US citizen. I am willing to work hard to become a Danish or Norwegian citizen if it means a higher quality of life for my future children or myself even. but It seems rather impossible to obtain that goal.
As I said before I have always wanted to live in a green, place with good environmental qualities and friendly people. This is why I have done a lot of research on Norway and Denmark.
I have gone as far as buying Language books for Norwegian as well as researching how to become a Citizenship of these nations.
I don't party, I don't drink or go out with friends, my entire life is dedicated to my studies and working for my goals. I was looking into the citizenship deal with Norway and Denmark and I ran into some stuff...I just don't understand...
there are a few things that I ran into that hit me harder than a 20 ton hammer on the foot.
The fact I have to give up my American citizenship to become a Danish or Norwegian citizen...that kinda stings a bit. To be frank, I don't know If I could. I love America as well it has given me so many opportunities that I would have never had in other countries. I owe her a debt of gratitude for paying my Education.
The fact that I have to work in Norway or Denmark for 9 years without help and on a workers permit before I can apply for Citizenship is yet another one of those things.
I don't mind learning the language or anything of the sort, I just have a problem with abandoning my US citizenship, Why is this required?
There are many countries in the World that let you keep your citizenship and have dual citizenship such as Mexico.
Why is Scandinavia so hard to become a legal citizen of compared to countries like Spain and the UK even?
Is there a way that I can get a job in Denmark or Norway with a Masters in therapy If I can speak Danish or Norwegian as well as Spanish and English well?
What else would I need to know that is not on this page
Is there any chance that they will ease up on the strictness of their policies? Its a bit much even for a man like myself who is trying to get a higher education.
I am only 20 years old but I already know that I want to live in Europe most of my life. Its always been a passion of mine ever since I was 15 and began to learn about the world and history as well as economics and politics. I happen to like socialism, well once ur part of it, before hand it seems to be hard to join
[ Edit: Edited on 03-Jun-2009, at 23:24 by alazar14 ]
I'm curious - have you ever been to Scandinavia? If not, you should probably visit for a month or two. Travel around and see what the different places are like and what the culture is like. Scandinavian culture is very different from Mexican American, and can probably be perceived as very cold if you're not familiar with it. I have worked in both Denmark and Norway, so I'm very familiar with it.
As far as language goes, Danish is not an easy language to master. You would probably find Norwegian somewhat easier (and that doesn't mean it's easy). Danish and Norwegian may look very similar, but Danish pronunciation is much more difficult. Without speaking the language fluently you would have a very hard time. I should also mention that of all the countries in EU (European Union), Denmark is probably among the stricter ones when it comes to immigration. It's a small country (only 5 million people) and there's a very strong political movement to restrict immigration even further.
As far as dual citizenship - each country will look at this issue differently, but that doesn't mean it can't change. If you were to be successful in moving to either Denmark or Norway (and that's a big 'if' because this is not an easy task), it's conceivable that things could change in 9 years time. Sweden recently made it legal to have dual citizenship, for instance. Sweden also has a more liberal immigration policy.
The dual citizenship thing can indeed be a hassle, but there's actually a lot of countries that have that as a law. I live in Oslo and regularly hear talk of it being changed, but so far I haven't seen any proof. Then again, you don't really have to become a citizen do you? If for the 'quality of life', just get employed here and pretty much all the benefits that Norwegians have also become yours. That's not entirely true, but you can get a permanent residency visa, like I have, after 3 or 4 years, and then you really are part of the system. I still have my Dutch passport and no intention of changing that. There's different ways to get this, but typically it's based on being employed by a Norwegian company for several years or married to a Norwegian or some such. Actually, I believe EU residents have very little paperwork to go through, but I went the family re-unification (aka marriage) route, so I still had to deal with quite the stack. But that's typical regardless of where you go, and after the first year it's much better.
If you like socialism, you'll be right at home here in Norway in any case They even publish everyone's salary every year on the internet as part of the 'all keeping an eye on everyone else'. That's something a lot of people outside Norway have a hard time understanding!
I find the difficulty levels with the two languages - the other way round. Danish, I managed OK (ish!!) with - when I was there. However, Norwegian - I would rate almost as tough as Icelandic!! I also found more people spoke English in Denmark, than in Norway.
Perhaps - OP, should also be aware that Denmark is an EU member. Norway isn't. Whether that makes any difference or not - I don't know. Just pointing it out.