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1. Posted by boulderman (Respected Member 418 posts) 7y

I find this really unfair :(

2. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 7y

Might be unfair, but really, do people have cameras with less than 4mp as a maximum?

3. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 7y

In any competition, a certain quality is required to be the winner. A size of 4MP gives a good quality output, both on screen and on print (A4 size). For prints on an A4 size, anything smaller than that would result in pixels being blown up. The photos of winners are printed out (A4 size), framed, and hung on the wall of the TP office in Melbourne, and possibly also in the Oslo office. These are some of the reasons why 4MP is required.

Just to clear things up, the photos you uploaded for the competition don't have to be 4MP. You must, however, have the original that is at least 4MP. This will be requested from you if your photo has been voted as a winner. If you cannot produce that, the next highest voted photo will be considered as the winner instead. Of course, all this is done before the winner is announced.

4. Posted by boulderman (Respected Member 418 posts) 7y

I have a Finepix 8.3MP camera but due to the size of the images and drain on battery per I am happy with 2 or 4, but annoyance I usually have to go higher to "make the grade" for competions. Additioanlly, some amazing shots taken at lower settigns do not allow ime for yout o chang eto a higher megapixel size and retake the photo.

Also I did a lot of travelling in 2004 and a 2mp camera wasn't uncommon then. Within those 8 months ago I saw the cameras halve in size and people laugh at the larger ones.

I have some excellent photos at 2mp and even 0.3mp - underwater - couldn't change the setting :(

Also its widely believed the resolution processor on Fujifilm cameras are twice that of other manufacturers therefore infact closer to 4mp. I would love to submit my 2mp images. Perhaps I can send some to Hien (as we've met) and let him judge whether they could have been good enough to enter)?

Additionally a 2mp picture fills the screen of a typical monitor therefore, on screen, thre is no loss of quality :)

So why the restriction for the final image?

[ Edit: Edited on 04-Jun-2009, at 06:31 by boulderman ]

5. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 7y

Quoting boulderman

So why the restriction for the final image?

Quoting Hien again: "For prints on an A4 size, anything smaller than that would result in pixels being blown up. The photos of winners are printed out (A4 size), framed, and hung on the wall of the TP office in Melbourne, and possibly also in the Oslo office. These are some of the reasons why 4MP is required"

6. Posted by boulderman (Respected Member 418 posts) 7y

OK I see your point, glad you mentioned the framing, I used a quality HP printer with the highest price HP advanced photo paper and the A4 2MP pictures look great :) perhaps you should see some :D

For my Baltic Trip on Saturday (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland) I will mainly take 4mp-8mp photos. I also intend of printing more and enhacnign more with photo editing tools (on a monitor twice as large) so lets see what I manage to capture!

7. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

Actually, if I am not mistaken, part of the reason is to make sure it's the original. Having an image at least 4MP (2464 x 1632) is a pretty good minimum requirement.

8. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 7y

Quoting Sam I Am

Actually, if I am not mistaken, part of the reason is to make sure it's the original. Having an image at least 4MP (2464 x 1632) is a pretty good minimum requirement.

So Sam, do you have a photo of mine hanging in the TP office in Oslo

9. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 7y

A collage of all my favourite TP'ers on the wall in Oslo; so you know you're all on there!! :)

10. Posted by Peter (Admin 5807 posts) 7y

Quoting Sam I Am

Actually, if I am not mistaken, part of the reason is to make sure it's the original. Having an image at least 4MP (2464 x 1632) is a pretty good minimum requirement.

Yeah, to me this is actually the main reason. The last thing we want is people submitting other people's photos. Requiring a larger size makes that much, much harder. And we do want the flexibility to be able to print these photos at sizes larger than a standard photo. We ran a photo competition a few years ago to create a Travellerspoint calendar. Unfortunately I don't think we specified any minimum sizes and one of the winners was somewhere around 2MP. We had to drop it from the calendar, because it did not hold up at all when attempting to print it (only at postcard size too mind you!). Shame, because it was a great photo on screen.

Seriously though, in my opinion you really need to be taking your priceless prize-winning shots at a larger size than 4MP these days (8MP would seem good) if you at all have the possibility. Not only will it ensure they work at larger sizes, but it also will give you more flexibility down the track if you want to tweak them in Photoshop, etc. Of course, that is entirely up to you :)

I'm not sure about your camera's battery, but mine seems to last forever all the while taking 10MP shots. And I can fit hundreds of photos on my memory card at that size. A 4GB memory card will set you back about $20 these days - and that's plenty for most of us. This reminds me of a saying from my era working in video production; "Tape is Cheap". In other words, when you've travelled half way across the world, spent hundreds of dollars on a camera, the last thing that should be holding you back from getting higher quality images is cost of the media!