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11. Posted by Annie0 (Full Member 128 posts) 7y

Ok i think we need to give Marcus a break, is this not a forum for advice?? not everyone clued in hence the reason we all use this site!!

12. Posted by fabyomama (Respected Member 560 posts) 7y

Where's your sense of fun? It would need his permission of course and an undertaking to hand it all over to the forum and go with what was decided - wherever that was! Could be amazing. No?

edit: anyone seen that film 'Amélie' - about the gnome? ;)

[ Edit: Edited on 22-Jul-2009, at 13:57 by fabyomama ]

13. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 7y

I have made my comments to Marcus because I have moderated most, if not all, of his threads. But, let's see if he will come back this time with an itinerary that members cam work with and reply adequately. Thanks.

14. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4810 posts) 7y

Marcus is actually giving responses to things people are saying to him now in various threads, so I at least have no problem with trying to be helpful again.

Quoting Marcus1

Look I know I have asked before, I'm just saying if you had €15,000 what kind of a RTW trip could you reasonably have? Would you be greatly limited to the places you could go? If you balanced your tme properly could you take in Europe & North America as well or would that be really just a third world budget? I'm sorry I've asked before but just to give me an estimate, for those of you planning a 12-month RTW trip how much would you get started with?

Say a decent really rough budget is €60/day for Europe/North America, €40/day for Australia/New Zealand, and €30/day for South America/SE Asia. That's enough for dorm rooms in hostels, supermarket food (or food stalls in SE Asia / cheap restaurants in South America) and public transport to a next destination once a week, as well as the occasional entrance fee or activity (but not too many of those; most days you'd have to entertain yourself for free).

So for that €15,000 you could spend 8 months in Europe/North America, or 16 months in South America/South East Asia, and if you want to spread it out precisely over the 12 months, then the ratios of time you can spend in the different regions becomes a simple maths problem:
15000 = 60x + 40y + 30z
365 = x + y + z
You can mix that about in various ways, and do for example 2.5 months Europe/North America, 5.5 months Australia/New Zealand, and 4 months South America/SE Asia. Or you could do a full year Australia/New Zealand and nothing else. Or you could do whatever else takes your fancy. Always keep in mind that some people blow through €15,000 in six months by doing lots of activities, while others are really good with finding well paying jobs and come out at the end of their RTW with just as much money as they started with. (Don't count on you being like this, but we can't tell what it'll be like for you.)

You can spend more time in Europe/North America if you really care about it, but the cost is needing to live really frugally, staying in places for much longer and not being able to spend money on the activities and things which make a RTW really worth doing. Or you can spend more time in South America/SE Asia and really live it up there. Your call.

[ Edit: Edited on 22-Jul-2009, at 14:59 by Sander ]

15. Posted by Marcus1 (Full Member 129 posts) 7y

Quoting Sander

Marcus is actually giving responses to things people are saying to him now in various threads, so I at least have no problem with trying to be helpful again.

Quoting Marcus1

Look I know I have asked before, I'm just saying if you had €15,000 what kind of a RTW trip could you reasonably have? Would you be greatly limited to the places you could go? If you balanced your tme properly could you take in Europe & North America as well or would that be really just a third world budget? I'm sorry I've asked before but just to give me an estimate, for those of you planning a 12-month RTW trip how much would you get started with?

Say a decent really rough budget is €60/day for Europe/North America, €40/day for Australia/New Zealand, and €30/day for South America/SE Asia. That's enough for dorm rooms in hostels, supermarket food (or food stalls in SE Asia / cheap restaurants in South America) and public transport to a next destination once a week, as well as the occasional entrance fee or activity (but not too many of those; most days you'd have to entertain yourself for free).

So for that €15,000 you could spend 8 months in Europe/North America, or 16 months in South America/South East Asia, and if you want to spread it out precisely over the 12 months, then the ratios of time you can spend in the different regions becomes a simple maths problem:
15000 = 60x + 40y + 30z
365 = x + y + z
You can mix that about in various ways, and do for example 2.5 months Europe/North America, 5.5 months Australia/New Zealand, and 4 months South America/SE Asia. Or you could do a full year Australia/New Zealand and nothing else. Or you could do whatever else takes your fancy. Always keep in mind that some people blow through €15,000 in six months by doing lots of activities, while others are really good with finding well paying jobs and come out at the end of their RTW with just as much money as they started with. (Don't count on you being like this, but we can't tell what it'll be like for you.)

You can spend more time in Europe/North America if you really care about it, but the cost is needing to live really frugally, staying in places for much longer and not being able to spend money on the activities and things which make a RTW really worth doing. Or you can spend more time in South America/SE Asia and really live it up there. Your call.

That's by far the most helpful post I have gotten. Basically my situation is this. I have about €30,000 in savings plus about €10-11 thousand every year from a rented house. If I was to dip into my savings by so much every year to add my rental money how long could I go for indefinitely. I would be completely felixible in time and could go a couple of years to get around to a place if I wanted. Doing it this way technically could you go for quite a few years?

16. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Basically my situation is this. I have about €30,000 in savings plus about €10-11 thousand every year from a rented house.

With a situation like that I would plan on super-cheap travel. Not dipping into the savings unless it was for emergencies. (If you dip into your savings regularly they will soon be gone. And you might need them later in life.)

There are plenty of ways to travel cheap and not spend more than the money you have from your rented house. Say you get 10,000 EUR from your house: As long as you stay under 27 EUR per day everything will be fine.

27 EUR per day and person is an ok budget for many places in South East Asia. Find a cheap flight to Bangkok or Singapore and tour South East Asia for 2-3 years. Heck, you could fly to Singapore and travel back to Europe overland in a very leisury fashion.

But if you are more interested in Europe consider cycle-touring. Buy a decent bike (from around 600 to 3500 EUR) and camping gear. Once you have shelled out for the gear and the bike you can get by on 27 EUR per day in Europe - if you camp and buy all your food from the supermarket. And if you really get into cycle-touring you can always cycle all the way to South East Asia.

Another place that is relatively cheap is the Middle East and Africa - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iran, Morocco.

Libanon, Turkey and Israel are more expensive, but still not as expensive as Europe.

You can "pay" for the more expensive countries by using the remaining 1,000 EUR from your 10-11k or buy spending less than 27 EUR per day. (Possible in India, Egypt, Syria,...)

Hope this was a bit helpful.

17. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4810 posts) 7y

Quoting Marcus1

I have about €30,000 in savings plus about €10-11 thousand every year from a rented house. If I was to dip into my savings by so much every year to add my rental money how long could I go for indefinitely. I would be completely felixible in time and could go a couple of years to get around to a place if I wanted. Doing it this way technically could you go for quite a few years?

Besides the numbers I've mentioned, you've got two major expenses: insurance and flights between the countries you'll be staying in. Backpacker insurance doesn't last for more than three years that I've ever seen. (It's for a year initially, and can then be extended only twice. Although you could probably get around this by returning home after three years and taking out a new policy. Also try to find out if there's something like "expat" insurance, as that might be more suitable.)
If you're still young enough to get Working Holiday Visas for Australia, New Zealand and Canada (e.g. not yet 31), you could leisurely explore each of those countries for a year. If you're not, you'll be facing limitations with how long you can stay in a country for - usually no more than three months (six months maybe with an extension). Many countries in South East Asia won't allow you in for more than a month by default (though a lot more is possible with visas). It's possible to keep fitting enough countries into a full year to make it all work, but it might be a bit of a puzzle sometimes, and would mean a new RTW flight every year. So that's probably €2000-€3000 yearly costs to calculate in above the expenses for staying in a country.

Still, you could last for quite a while before you ran out of money. (Just be certain to have a plan for what to do when you reach that point!)

18. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 7y

Quoting Annie0

Ok i think we need to give Marcus a break, is this not a forum for advice?? not everyone clued in hence the reason we all use this site!!

The reason for some of the comments is that Marcus has been asking the same questions in slightly different formats for around a year now.

Marcus - from what you have described you seem to have plenty of money, (more than most who set off on a RTW) so it's fair to say you could survive for a significant amount of time wherever you end up going. None of us can give you an 100% accurate answer as everyone is going to spend slightly different amounts but the answers you have received so far should give you a rough idea. Why don't you take the plunge and just see how it goes? The worst that can happen is that you end up coming home sooner that you would have liked, something which is probably quite common on RTW trips. I know on some of my trips I would have liked to have stayed for longer but I ran out of money - I still had the best time though! I think you said you are in Ireland at the moment, and it's likely most of the countries you are planning to visit would be cheaper than there, (especially as the Euro is so strong) so if your main concern is money it would make sense to set off. It's a shame that your planning seems to consist of talk only about money, as there are far more exciting aspects of a RTW trip to plan! I think everyone would love to help you should you post asking for advice about, say, things to do in specific destinations.

19. Posted by Marcus1 (Full Member 129 posts) 7y

So over a period of 3-4 years you wouldn't be able to get around everywhere at some point?

20. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

So over a period of 3-4 years you wouldn't be able to get around everywhere at some point?

Of course you'd be able to go almost everywhere during 3-4 years! Only restrictions are visa and money, if you travel to a lot of expensive places your money will soon be gone.

Marcus, what do you say to my idea of becoming a cycle-tourist? Could you see yourself doing that?

And what about fabyomama's idea?

Quoting fabyomama

But I say we get his budget and plan the whole thing - which countries, which cities, what to see, even which hostels to stay in - but he's got to go.

Shall we plan the trip for you? Say for one year and 15,000 EUR?