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31. Posted by Annie0 (Full Member 127 posts) 7y

Quoting Berra2k

wouldn't feel bad at all. and black market drugs are intended to be distributed to addicts? what about LSD, shrooms, marijuana and all the other non habbit forming or physically addictive drugs?

and I've done coke and many other drugs. a drug habbit is on the user, not the seller. a 12 year old addict? well I don't think I'll be visiting Sudan anytime soon but I'll be sure to keep a look out for these young crack heads.

so I guess it's a question of ethics... so as stated earlier, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. hell even if I got into some trouble with another criminal who put my life at risk I don't think I'd have any problem killing them even. live and let die?

so no conscious for u then!! Your post describes a selfish individual with no awareness of social/political issues faced by those in different countries. You ever ask yourself why some children are addicts at 12?? You plan to travel!!!! A mind set like yours will embrace no culture so i ask myself why do people like u travel??

32. Posted by Berra2k (Budding Member 14 posts) 7y

"a selfish individual with no awareness of social/political issues"

I think that's assuming a bit too much about me now. Maybe I am selfish and have no compassion for other people but hey, billions of people go to sleep starving every night and there's not a damned thing that I can or will do to change that, not my problem. I'll look out for myself for now, thank you.

33. Posted by murphc09 (Budding Member 57 posts) 7y

Quoting Redpaddy

I shall do my utmost to get a copy. It sounds just incredible - and thanks for the info.
Post #22# tway.... I just can't see your point at all in that Post. However, I'm bowing out of this one. It's getting far too - can't think of a word to hit it on the bullseye, but not my thing anymore.
Ciao 4 now.

no worries, found it for a few quid on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Evasion---Crimethinc.-New-Book_W0QQitemZ220414344921QQcmdZViewItem

34. Posted by Annie0 (Full Member 127 posts) 7y

Quoting Berra2k

"a selfish individual with no awareness of social/political issues"

I think that's assuming a bit too much about me now. Maybe I am selfish and have no compassion for other people but hey, billions of people go to sleep starving every night and there's not a damned thing that I can or will do to change that, not my problem. I'll look out for myself for now, thank you.

Berra2k im certainly not one to assume you have provided the rope to hang yourself - look over your recent threads because what your have wrote does show no awareness of social and political issues therefore i rest my case. Ill leave you with this ............get some empathy!!!

35. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

For anybody interested in living without money:

http://oeffi.freehostia.de/oeffi/index.html (sorry, German only)

It is the website of a German guy who burned his passport 20 years ago and decided to live completely without money. He started a movement called "Die Schenker" (The Givers). His message is to trade gifts with love and live a life without luxury, government, violence and money - to save the world with reason and love!

He also changed his name to ÖffÖff, the name under which he is known all over Germany thanks to several TV reports.

He studied theology and talks about the Divine Light and living according to the principles of Franciscus of Assisi, so he is a bit of a radical. But between a drug smuggler and a guy living the hobo lifestyle I take the hobo anytime!

36. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 7y

Quoting Redpaddy

Post #22# tway.... I just can't see your point at all in that Post.

Just about anything can kill someone--cars, Draino, aspirin, bicycles, alcohol, venetian-blind cords, small toys, you name it. However, these were all put on the market for consumer-friendly reasons. Their intent is not to kill. If someone uses them for a purpose not intended, the onus is on the consumer (or it's simply a very terrible accident). Even alcohol is meant as a recreational drink; it is not made to be abused.

Drugs, on the other hand, are illegal. Their intent is to make black-market money by preying on addicts. Yes, people can be casual users--but the real black-market money comes from the addict who will do anything, pay anything for a fix. So people who push drugs are pushing addiction--a guarantee of a nice, fat income. All they want is money, made off the backs of people who have lost the ability to reason through drug use.

And if anyone thinks a 12-year-old addict is a myth--or something out of deep, dark Africa--you've been living with your head in the sand.

37. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 7y

I lived in a London squat in Camden Town back in 1972 when I was 18.
Two Welsh smack addicts who lived in the room above mine had ripped off a French Hell's Angel and I woke up at 3 a.m. one morning with a switchblade at my throat and the guy saying to me in a thick accent 'Tell me where they have gone or I will slit you'.
Didn't have a f**king clue did I, and he was well pissed off.
Managed to convince him that I had nothing to do with it but that was an awesome experience.
Another guy in the house (he was only 16!!!!) moved to a squat in the next street and burnt to death soon after when he took too many downers, knocked over a candle in his room and no-one could get in to save him.
Two learning experiences as far as I was concerned.
Would I 'smuggle drugs or transport anything illegal'?
Having no great inclination to drop the soap or become some jailbird's bitch, the answer is NO

If I were travelling with a partner and found out they were smuggling something illegal, I'd drop them tootsweet.

Still, it's your choice so accept the consequences.

38. Posted by tleb (Full Member 117 posts) 7y

Quoting Berra2k

I feel like the stereotypical backpacker is kind of a wimp and would piss themselves at the thought of a stupid bar fight or something lol. Where are the renegades at haha.

Your version of the word renegade sounds more like thug to me.

You wanna be a renegade and show how large your balls are? Then stop the bar fight before it happens. Take a punch and then apologize, even though you did nothing. Then buy the guy a drink too. Suppress your ego and forget about what anyone thinks of those actions.

Any pu**y can throw a punch, or get into a fight. Nothing special there.

As for the your theories on drugs, I think everyone else has covered that very well, and I don't think you're capable of understanding.

I'm just hoping you ply your trade in a country that treats it as serious as it is. Then you won't be everyones problem ever again.

39. Posted by fabyomama (Respected Member 560 posts) 7y

Just wondered, what is the 'stereotypical backpacker' - and does anyone really care except other backpackers who are desperate to stand apart? People in other countries see all backpackers as 'tourists' - and they're right - so why worry?

40. Posted by CaptainKay (Budding Member 17 posts) 7y

Drug smuggling is a bit extreme isn't it? Especially because the penalites are often a LOT worse in other countries. Some one got jailed, in Ecuador when I was there, for several years for possesion of coke and couldn't go home.... couldn't see her family unless they came to see her etc.. and that was just for possesion not dealing or trying to smuggle it! Watch Brigdet Jones... that should give you an idea of what NOT to do :p