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41. Posted by BedouinLeo (Inactive 698 posts) 7y

Is this all about politicians here ?
Time has proven over the centuries that it makes no difference who is in charge in whatever country, there will always be powers that want to be enemies rather than friends with everyone else. I just ignore the whole issue and live my little tender short life to the max. Whether it's a situation involving terrorists or a crooked councillor, they've always existed and always will. No matter how much the superpowers try to convince their people otherwise, these type of people, no matter of what calibre, are eternal and will never be wiped out.
Now.. back to my next trip regardless of who is in charge.

42. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 7y

Quoting wouterrr

A muslim is not allowed to lie and deceive.

Mullahs don't tell porkies
Your ardent defence of the priestly caste (and Islam in general) and your labelling of me as a 'crusader' (alkyda number 2's zawahiri is the only other person I know of using that medieval term) could lead one to surmise that your authorship of thread 'Anti-Islam movie by Dutch politician.Opinions' http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=47735 is less an expression of moral outrage and more like solicitation of anti-Wilders sentiment in defence of your new race.
Are you a moslem convert?
If that were true, your Wilders thread would be one AWESOME example of 'Taqiyya (disguising one's beliefs)

43. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 7y

Quoting wotthefiqh

If that were true, your Wilders thread would be one AWESOME example of 'Taqiyya (disguising one's beliefs)

So what according to you is the problem with taqiyya? I explained to you in detail what it meant, did you read? Here the text in which I explained the term taqiyya to you in post number 36:

Taqiyya originates when the Prophet Muhammed and the early Muslims were spreading and teaching Islam in Mecca, in the very first few years of the message. Since Islamic propagation and conversion was mostly done in private, and since Islam was radically different from the pagan and secular culture of the pre-Islamic Arabs, Muslims were then allowed to hide their faith in fear of persecution or, in some cases, murder, based on their beliefs.The word taqiyyah is Arabic for "fear". Muslims are allowed to hide their faith in fear of persecution and oppressions. It has nothing to do with misleading in order to spread faith. That is a widely accepted misconception. http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html.

One last thing. Don't blame Islam, blame the people that don't follow Islam properly. What is your story about mullah's? Catholic priests molest children by thousands, simple conclusion by a simple soul; Christianity must be evil so all christians are evil too.

[ Edit: Edited on 15-Sep-2009, at 06:29 by wouterrr ]

44. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 7y

I do envy today's high school pupils who study History.
I spent hours of utter boredom reading textbooks trying to grasp the ignorance, religious absolutism and violent oppression inflicted by clerics during the Middle Ages.
Now all they have to do is watch streaming video from Tehran to see it first-hand.

45. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 7y

Quoting wotthefiqh

I do envy today's high school pupils who study History.
I spent hours of utter boredom reading textbooks trying to grasp the ignorance, religious absolutism and violent oppression inflicted by clerics during the Middle Ages.
Now all they have to do is watch streaming video from Tehran to see it first-hand.

And that is the reason why you support the Islam hate campaign by Geert Wilders?

46. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 6y

Serpently one of the most reductionalist response I've read for a while (which avoided the thread subject of medieval tyranny funnily enough ), but surely mention of Geert should be confined to YOUR very own thread http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=47735
Incipient Alzheimer's at your age
You have every right to express admiration for totalitarian islam (the shiite variety or the impending sunni caliphate variety if that takes your fancy), while I have every right to express a somewhat unflattering opinion on the subject.

47. Posted by BedouinLeo (Inactive 698 posts) 6y

Great to have a debate with strong opinions on both/all sides as long as hatred doesn't develop.
Muslim, Dutch facist, pacifist, extremist.. As long as we can all have a say to each other but do it peacefully, then that's good and long may differences of opinion exist.

48. Posted by BedouinLeo (Inactive 698 posts) 6y

Oh and if the USA and Iran continue to exist for the next ten million years, neither will learn from each other fully. Let's face it, they don't want to and then again, why should they? Two totally different cultures with generally opposite beliefs overall. It would be like putting a hungry tiger and lame sheep in the same cage and asking them both to be friends.

49. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 6y

Quoting wotthefiqh

Incipient Alzheimer's at your age

So how are your brains?

50. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 6y

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting wotthefiqh

Incipient Alzheimer's at your age

So how are your brains?

I can still tell shiite from shinola so everything seems to be working normally