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how do i manage 2 go 2 Ukraine,Poland,Austria,Italy,Hungary

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1. Posted by tzadikel (Budding Member 4 posts) 7y

Hi, I have to be in September in Ukraine, so I'm thinking about extending my trip a little bit.

I want to take a night train from Ukraine to Krakow, sleep on the train.

(day 1)Tour Krakow and Auswitz, than at night take a train (instead of an hotel) to Vienna.

(day 2) Tour Vienna, and than at night take a train to Salzburg.

(day 3) tour Salzburg, and than at night take a train to Venice.

(day 4) tour Venice, and take a train at night to Florence.

(day 5) tour Florence, and at night take a train to Budapest (I have to be that day in Budapest, so I can't go after Vienna to Budapest).

(day 6 and 7) tour Budapest, and than back to America.

Do you have any tips for me, how to travel,which train to take, which hotels to stay, how to make the trip really cheap, and much more.

Thanks.

2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

There are no night trains for most of these distances, so your trip doesn't work.

(day 1)Tour Krakow and Auswitz, than at night take a train (instead of an hotel) to Vienna.

No night train, but a through coach (routed car). Special reservation required. Price should be around 100 EUR including the reservation fees for a couchette.

(day 2) Tour Vienna, and than at night take a train to Salzburg.

No night train from Vienna to Salzburg, because it is only 4 hours away with the EC train.

(day 3) tour Salzburg, and than at night take a train to Venice.

There is a night train, it leaves Salzburg at 01:34 and arrives in Venice St. Lucia at 08:34. It is the EN 237. Not a good connection if you ask me.

(day 4) tour Venice, and take a train at night to Florence.

No night train from Venice to Florence because travelling time by fast Eurostar train is only 2 hours and 4 hours by slow regional train. There is a night train to Rome though.

(day 5) tour Florence, and at night take a train to Budapest (I have to be that day in Budapest, so I can't go after Vienna to Budapest).

No night train from Florence to Budapest AFAIK. There is a night train from Venice though, the EN 241. It arrives in Budapest at 11 am (if it isn't delayed which often happens with long-distance trains). If this is soon enough for you...

Your trip would work better if you took the night train connection from Salzburg to Florence via Villach. (Depart Salzburg 21:10 with the OIC 596 to Villach and take EN 235 at 00:03 from Villach to Florence.) Then you could go from Florence to Venice and take the night train from Venice to Budapest. Or maybe skip Florence altogether, instead of spending time on the train you could use it better for sightseeing in Venice.

[ Edit: Edited on 16-Jun-2009, at 16:13 by t_maia ]

3. Posted by tzadikel (Budding Member 4 posts) 7y

Thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4. Posted by tzadikel (Budding Member 4 posts) 7y

I think that i'm still going to do this trip, because from Krakow i can take the through coach (routed car) as you said (give me more info about it)

From Vienna to Salzburg, it doesn't have to be a night train, i can take the last train if its not a long ride. (do you know around when it leaves Vienna?)

whats not good about the train leaving Salzburg to Venice? give me more info on it.

Than i'll take the last train from Venice to Florence(you know when the last train departs?), it doesn't have to be a night train if its a short ride.

when does the last train from Florence to Budapest leave? or i can take a train from Florence to Venice and take the night train from Venice to Budapest, i'm Ok with arriving 11 am or even with a delay 12 pm in Budapest, after all i'm going to be there more than one day.

5. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

From Vienna to Salzburg, it doesn't have to be a night train, i can take the last train if its not a long ride. (do you know around when it leaves Vienna?)

See www.oebb.at for timetable and prices.

whats not good about the train leaving Salzburg to Venice? give me more info on it.

Take a look at the departure time. I mean, 01:34 am? I've been to Salzburg and as much as I loved the city, I can think of better things to do than hang around the train station at midnight. I wouldn't say it is unsafe, but it is far from cozy. They lock up the entrance hall at night, you'd have to sit on a bench at the platform.

Much better use of your time would be the connection to Florence.

Than i'll take the last train from Venice to Florence(you know when the last train departs?), it doesn't have to be a night train if its a short ride.

Look up the connections and the fares yourself at www.trenitalia.com

(it is much better if I give you the tools to answer the questions yourself, you'll need to know these urls.)

when does the last train from Florence to Budapest leave? or i can take a train from Florence to Venice and take the night train from Venice to Budapest,

There is only the night train from Venice to Budapest, to leave from Florence you'd have to go from Florence to Venice and then take that night train to Budapest.

6. Posted by tzadikel (Budding Member 4 posts) 7y

Thanks a million, I really appreciate it.