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1. Posted by ErolGirl (Budding Member 78 posts) 7y

Hiya

Me and my boyfriend have decided to travel in November instead of getting our own place. We have thought of all the countries we want to go to but ts not very place specific right now. Let me know what you think...?

NOV:
Start in London

Paris

Other areas in France...?

Switzerland (skiing - only 2 or 3 days)

Netherlands

Belgium

Germany (I quite fancy koenigssee but its out of the way? :()

Heading up to Norway for Christmas

Sweden

St Petersburg

Boarding the Trans Siberian at the start of January and traveling through Mongolia.

Arriving in Beijing 20ish days later (probably going to do the trans-sib independently not through an agent)

Spending some time in China, Ai'an, shanghai, Hong Kong...

Then heading to Thailand, Phu Quoc Island, Singapore and end in Australia in March-ish for the Journey home....

Now I have never been traveling (well apart from just fortnight holidays etc), and so I don't now how adventurous or simple this plan is?? Could any one give me any insight? It seems like ALOT to me, but spread over 5 months I am not so sure...

Also we are hoping to have about £5,000 each saved up for the trip, as well as a £7,000 emergency account and a credit card.

Thank you in advance for any help!

Christy x

2. Posted by bgl (Full Member 167 posts) 7y

I'm curious why you would want to spend so much time in Europe at the beginning of the trip. These countries are all so close (relatively speaking) to the UK that it would be easy enough for you to visit them on another trip. After you leave Europe you'll be in places that are much further away, and thus much more expensive and time consuming to get to, so I would spend more time there. For instance, southeast Asia. I have been to Thailand and Singapore but not any of the other countries but I have heard plenty of peoole who found Laos and Vietnam very interesting. Also, curious about the final part, "...end in Australia." You're on the other side of the planet - why END the trip there? You still (presumably) have to get back to the UK. Why not visit some of islands in the South Pacific, maybe Hawaii or mainland USA or Canada on the way back? Just a few thoughts...

3. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 7y

You really should consider changing the order of your trip because the way you currently have it you are making it so you'd end up having bad weather almost all of your trip. I personally think it would be better if you were to fly to Australia as the weather will be pretty good around the starting bit of your trip and then work your way backwards towards the UK. Doing that will mean you have a lot of good weather as apposed to cool to cold weather for most of your trip. It would also mean that you would be getting back to the UK around the time the weather is getting close to being decent.

Another thing that would be worth considering to be a bit more adventurous is if you did it the way I am talking then after the places in China you mention, do the silk road to get to St Petersberg. That would take you to a few other countries and be more of a once in a lifetime type trip. If you did that then cutting out a lot of that European section would be worth considering because like bgl says it is so close to you that you could easily and cheaply go to most of those places on a budget airline or by train when you get a week off or something like that.

4. Posted by ErolGirl (Budding Member 78 posts) 7y

Thanks for the replies aharrold and bgl! Maybe I should give my reasons for traveling plans....?

We decided to go at November time as we want to go skiing, and also, wish to see Christmas markets in Germany, and spend Christmas in a generally Christmassy atmosphere (SNOWY! :)) I know the weather in most of western europe wont be great, but it wont be much different to what we're used to anyway! Maybe we could leave later,maybe the start of December and spend less time in Europe, so that we can have longer across in Asia...All the things we need to think about I guess...

We do want to visit many places in Western Europe and it may seem weird but it isn't really that easy to get to these places for us as were in the Isle of Man, and so a quick cheap flight over is never an option as we have to get off Island! And typically for holidays/short trips, we tend to prefer to go somewhere beach like and hot, such as Spain/Balearic Islands/South France, hence missing that area out on this trip. Plus after this trip we are planning to get our own place, which will probably mean no holidays for a long long time!!

Looking towards the end of the trip, will the weather not be nice in Southeast Asia around Feb-March? I know China will be cold in Jan, but if we managed to get there in Feb, although it will still be cold, we will get to be there for the Chinese New Year, which I think would be a great experience....We aren't too bothered about the cold as we both love snow! So long as we will get some sun at the end of the trip.....I read somewhere that Thailand is quite a comfortable heat around Feb-March...? And if we did leave later December, the 5 months will extend to March which is getting warmer? Also, we were thinking of visiting the Northern region of Australia at the end of the trip...But I fear this is Monsoon season?! But TBH Australia isnt a place that either of us are overly bothered about (I know it seems mad, but we were literally using Aus as a big airport to get home) SO the final place on the trip could be anywhere...Ideas?

We were thinking of going out to Fiji at the end of the trip, or even New Zealand, but we were thinking that our funds may have run out by then!! America we are thinking about that for the future...Maybe our next trip?!

Anyway....Thats alot of typing there! Sorry to have gone on abit.... But thankyou for input!!

ps I am looking into the Silk Road now....

5. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Paris

Other areas in France...?

Switzerland (skiing - only 2 or 3 days)

I would combine "other areas in France" with "skiing". The French Alps are just as nice for skiing as the Swiss Alps, no need to go to Switzerland for it.

I would also go France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany, this order is more logical.

And if you want to go to St. Petersburg, may I suggest you fly from Cologne, Germany to St. Petes? Germanwings has very cheap flights on that route, if you book early enough tickets start at 19 EUR per person one-way. Alternatively look into squeezing in Helsinki and take the bus from Helsinki to St. Petes or go via Riga and take the train.

6. Posted by ErolGirl (Budding Member 78 posts) 7y

Quoting t_maia

Paris

Other areas in France...?

Switzerland (skiing - only 2 or 3 days)

I would combine "other areas in France" with "skiing". The French Alps are just as nice for skiing as the Swiss Alps, no need to go to Switzerland for it.

I would also go France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany, this order is more logical.

And if you want to go to St. Petersburg, may I suggest you fly from Cologne, Germany to St. Petes? Germanwings has very cheap flights on that route, if you book early enough tickets start at 19 EUR per person one-way. Alternatively look into squeezing in Helsinki and take the bus from Helsinki to St. Petes or go via Riga and take the train.

Think after more research we are going to probably leave the skiing for now...And we are going to do the route you suggested France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany. Probably going to be getting a train from Hamburg to Copenhagen. From there go to Gothenburg and maybe Norway, end up in Stockholm and get a cruise ship to Helsinki :) Only a 5 hour train journey to St Petersburg from there! Going to try and avoid flying as much as possible...

Glad we have managed to get a little bit of organisation about that part of the trip cause it was starting to worry me cause i knew nothing about those areas!

The next area of great research will be the Thailand etc part....CLUELESS and it seems scary