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1. Posted by mash7 (Budding Member, 5 posts) 11 Jul '09 14:56

OK so... I've been a visitor to these forums for a few weeks but have found what I've needed without posting until now.

Me and my girlfriend (21 & 23) are looking for somewhere to go this September. Finding inspiration wasn't hard, we want to see the world and are open minded enough to go anywhere. However, we only have 3 weeks to travel as that's all we can get off work. We could probably go a few days more if needed. We've picked September simply because we should have enough spending money by then.

Earlier in the year we had planned to Interrail in September from Cadiz through Seville/Granada/Valencia/Madrid/Barcelona/Southern France/Tuscany/Rome/Naples/Bari (Free ferry to Greece) then finish up with a relaxing week island hopping around the Cyclades before flying home. However, our job situation has changed and this would be whistlestop to say the least in 3 weeks. Also, with the Euro/Pound rate it would be more expensive, I've heard from friends paying well over the odds for groceries and beers on package holidays recently. Our budget was about £1750 each.

This made us switch our attention to a week's trip to New York City. At the end of 2010 we are planning on moving to Toronto for a year to work, so thought that a week in NYC would also give us a chance to stay in Toronto for a day or night and check it out albeit briefly. Bare in mind neither of us have ever been out of Europe. The dollar/pound rate is OK at the moment and I have found flights from Bristol (our local airport) to NYC for £250pp return in September. However, this is still NYC, the hotels/hostels are not cheap and there is LOTS to see and do, and we wouldn't want to spend our time there thinking about our money. Chances are we would spend as much in a week in NYC as we would 3 weeks backpacking in Europe.

It turns out our budget will be around £1500 each now, that will have to include everything (flights, interrail tickets etc). I know that is not alot and 3 weeks isn't alot of time, but we have both got the travelling bug and turned down the chance of a Med package holiday this summer because we are bored of them.

As you can see our Europe itinerary was quite comprehensive but just covered Spain, a whizz through the South of France, Italy and Greece. Nice and sunny, full of culture but still familiar, and relatively safe for our first backpacking trip. Then theres the NYC/Toronto option. What would you do?

(Sorry for the essay!)

[ Edit: Edited on 11-Jul-2009, at 14:58 by mash7 ]

2. Posted by boreal2673 (Respected Member, 345 posts) 13 Jul '09 17:49

Well I would head to NYC. It will be cheaper and you can head to several different cities if you come to NYC for 3 weeks. You can go to Philadelphia, Boston, and Washington DC as well as doing all of new york city. Toronto is too far to go to for a night or so. If you would like more specific info let me know.

3. Posted by Piecar (Travel Guru, 880 posts) 14 Jul '09 07:58

Unless I missed it...where you from, dude? I assume Britain.

To me, New York is nothing special....it's most special quality (seems to me) is that it believes it's so goddamned special.

It's a big giant concrete jungle where everybody's in a hurry and most people are, at least on the surface, pretty brusque. I spent a week there my first time, and was happy to leave. My second time was a couple of weeks, but I was doing something.

Also, it seems to me that to go there, and then race up to T.O. for a day or so doesn't sound all that thrilling. You can't really get a sense of the city in a day, so it's a wasted effort.

Me, I would go to Europe. Not really that far away. Plenty of options. Prices are ridiculously cheap to many destinations (Guy I met in Budapest told me he came for the weekend. Flew there and back for fifty pounds.)Plenty of cultures that you haven't seen in every second goddamned Hollywood production, like NYC. There are plenty of places that are cheaper than NYC in Europe. NYC often considered in the top three most expensive places in the US.

D

[ Edit: Edited on 14-Jul-2009, at 08:05 by Piecar ]

4. Posted by mash7 (Budding Member, 5 posts) 14 Jul '09 08:19

Yeah I'm from Cardiff, UK.

Thanks for your replies. We talked through it last night, and came to the conclusion that, our hearts say Europe whilst our heads say NYC, and we have to go with our hearts. Basically, we want that sense of adventure, without feeling way out of our depth, and also want a bit of sun, so although it's probably the most expensive time to go around Europe in years, we're going to save towards this.

We have heard the horror stories of how expensive it is now because of the Euro/Pound rate, but figured that this is inflated prices in the major tourist areas, that are not seeing as many tourists as usual this summer. So hopefully in off-the-beaten-track places, it will not be as expensive. We are very interested (I'm almost obsessed!) with Spain and the Spanish culture, I have been there many times already, also to the balearics and canaries, but want to see the real Spain. One day I would love to live there also. We are also very interested in Italian culture so want to visit there aswell.

We are still planning on moving to Toronto for a year, but feel comfortable enough that we could go without first having lived there. It sounds very nice, from sources of friends and reading in books and online, and cannot be that radically different from what we have experienced in London and Cardiff that we will hate it. And as also has been mentioned, it would be too far to see Toronto for a day/night whilst staying in NYC, so this rules out a big factor of our reason for going. We can visit NYC, Boston, New Jersey, Washington and the other surrounding areas when we are living in Toronto.

Thanks!! And lets hope the £ get's a bit stronger!

5. Posted by Piecar (Travel Guru, 880 posts) 14 Jul '09 08:53

Cardiff! Home of Torchwood. New York'd be nothing.

Toronto, my birthplace, is in an easy grid, with the lake always south. Easy city to navigate, with a good subway and bus system...You'll be fine there. Good choice.

D

6. Posted by boreal2673 (Respected Member, 345 posts) 14 Jul '09 17:23

To answer your assumption I am not British. I am born and raised in New Jeresey. I am well travaelled and know a lot about traveling. I have to think that when you say New York City, not only do you mean Manhattan but you mean Time Square. New York is so much more than Manhattan and I would suggest going to the outer bouroughs when all possible. You cant beleive how many new yorkers have not been to Brooklyn or the real Chinatown in Flushing, Queens. Also, New Yorkers are very friendly and willing to talk to tourists. The misconception comes when you ask someone in the dead of rush hour how to get to a very touristic place instead of looking at a map. Though I have never been to Barbados, if it is like most island life it is laid back and relaxed. You do not come to a major city to relax. Frankly and I dont like most cities, but New York has a lot to see and it is the gateway to many more on the East Coast.

Getting off topic. You that neither of have left Europe. Why not go now when you can and have an opportunity. Your family is from Europe and you will always have time to travel there. Toronto is a great city but there are many places to see in Canada that you should not neglect. I suggest travelling to those while you are living in Toronto. Either way you are travelling, so enjoy and get the most out of your trip.

7. Posted by Redpaddy (Inactive, 1004 posts) 15 Jul '09 07:31

Never watched Torchwood or Doctor Who.
But someone told me this week, the connection between the two of them.
Whoever would have thought it??

8. Posted by mash7 (Budding Member, 5 posts) 16 Jul '09 08:13

So we've decided that Europe it is!

But... What's a decent budget? If we were to spend £60 a day each, and go for three weeks, thats £1260, then with flights and interrail on top its about £1600/1700. Looks like most hostel private rooms and guesthouses are about £20pppn. That would leave us with about £40 a day to spend each on other travel/food/drink/souvineers, which seems like a nice amount, I don't spend that here! Is it realistic? Or is Europe as expensive as everyone is saying at the moment?

9. Posted by MikeAllen (Full Member, 129 posts) 16 Jul '09 08:16

Quoting mash7

So we've decided that Europe it is!

But... What's a decent budget? If we were to spend £60 a day each, and go for three weeks, thats £1260, then with flights and interrail on top its about £1600/1700. Looks like most hostel private rooms and guesthouses are about £20pppn. That would leave us with about £40 a day to spend each on other travel/food/drink/souvineers, which seems like a nice amount, I don't spend that here! Is it realistic? Or is Europe as expensive as everyone is saying at the moment?

Good choice, europe will be much better than NY!!

Mike

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