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11. Posted by USCtrojan (Budding Member 2 posts) 7y

woah!

Didnt mean to start some reply competition.

I value your advice repdaddy. To respond to your questions... yes I have a drivers license. Ill be 21 when I pack the bags. Money is not really an issue, but I want to travel in the cheapest way possible. make sense?

t-mania. Im a rookie at this and Ive never heard of these schengen rules. I was always told that because I am an american citizen that i receive temporary visas just because of my passport. I wont be in any country besides austria (for school) and spain (for school). Please enlighten me on this.

Buzzcock. your username made me laugh for a good 10 minutes. thank you. also, what you said is exactly what I needed. thanks. What do you think that will run me as far as money?

thanks

12. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Quoting buzzcock

Rail Europe - oh, no, that'll just start another argument.

Yes, let's not repeat it here. For those who want to know, see

http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=62164

B: Scotland to C: Belgium. Train or flight from Inverness to London, then Eurostar to Belgium

From what I know train in the UK is quite expensive and the price of the Eurostar ticket is not cheap either. There have got to be flights from Glasgow or Edinburgh to Brussels with budget airlines. If you don't want to hit London that might be worth a thought. See www.whichbudget.com for ideas.

D: Normandy to E: Vienna. Train back into Paris, then check international rail services via Germany.

That is a long train ride and (if you pay regular fare) quite expensive too. Again check out flights or the Eurolines bus from Paris to Vienna too.

Quoting USCtrojan

Im a rookie at this and Ive never heard of these schengen rules. I was always told that because I am an american citizen that i receive temporary visas just because of my passport. I wont be in any country besides austria (for school) and spain (for school). Please enlighten me on this.

Schengen Area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

Rules state that you (as a US-citizen) cannot be inside the Schengen Area for longer than 90 days inside a 180 period without getting a visa (or residency permit). And aside from your trip to Ireland and the UK you'll be staying for almost a year inside the Schengen Area. Thus you need to get cracking about the visa situation.

Since you'll be studying in Austria for a semester you should apply for a student visa at the Austrian embassy. This will sort out the first part of your Schengen visa troubles. In an ideal situation the Austrians will give you a residency permit that lasts until you start studying in Spain. Call the Austrian embassy or consulate and ask about that!

I know from other members of this board that the Spanish authorities will only give you the residency permit as long as you are enrolled as a student in a Spanish embassy. After you are no longer a student they will ask you to leave ASAP. If you plan to travel around Europe after you are done with studying in Spain you'll have a problem.

Further, you need to call the Spanish embassy and ask them where and when you have to apply for your Spanish student visa. Normally you must apply at the Spanish consulate in the USA closest to you while you are in the USA since your normal country of residency is the USA. Since you'll be studying in Austria you need to confirm with them in writing (!!!!!) that you can apply for the Spanish student visa at the Spanish embassy in Vienna.

This is it for now. I could help you better if you posted a more detailed initiary. Like when do you start studying in Austria, when do you start studying in Spain, when did you plan to travel where, etc.

[ Edit: Edited on 17-Jul-2009, at 02:37 by t_maia ]

13. Posted by Buzzcock (Full Member 178 posts) 7y

Quoting USCtrojan

Buzzcock. your username made me laugh for a good 10 minutes. thank you

I plagiarised it from these gentlemen.

Quoting USCtrojan

also, what you said is exactly what I needed. thanks. What do you think that will run me as far as money?

I guess it depends how much money you have got. Unless you have EU-citizenship you are going to find employment of any legal sort difficult to obtain in order to support yourself, not least because there is a recession on and legally employers have to prove that they have tried recruiting EU citizens first before offering employment to anyone who isn't.

As t_maia has said, rail travel in Britain is expensive (and not a great deal cheaper in France from my experience). Loganair operates flights to and from the Scottish Highlands and Islands and these can be booked through the flybe website, however these are not as far as I know direct to the continent.

It looks like you have quite a bit of planning to do, checking the various budget airline websites such as EasyJet, bmibaby and possibly national rail company ones. The cheapest way of getting around Europe - apart from hitching - is by Eurolines bus, but it's also one of the slowest.

14. Posted by Redpaddy (Inactive 1004 posts) 7y

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As t_maia has said, rail travel in Britain is expensive (and not a great deal cheaper in France from my experience). Loganair operates flights to and from the Scottish Highlands and Islands and these can be booked through the flybe website, however these are not as far as I know direct to the continent.
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Rail travel in GB can also be very cheap. A fact that so many people don't know about. Long distance train journies in GB, when booked in advance - are amongst the cheapest in Western Europe.
It is just the complicated ticketing system that scares so many people off.
For instance - on the day, a return from London to Manchester, if you just turn up at London Euston and get a ticket 15 minutes before the train departs, will cost around £70. However, get an advance purchase - usually a week or so before travel and it can be bought for around £20. Not bad for a 5 hour round trip.
There are train tickets from London to Scotland for about the same price as Easyjet fares. The difference being, you can enjoy some breathtaking scenery en-route, rather than doing the whole thing in about 50 minutes from above the clouds.

[ Edit: Edited on 19-Jul-2009, at 03:16 by Redpaddy ]

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