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How To Plan A 1 Year Trip Across Europe? Any Pointers?

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1. Posted by joejoechen (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

Hey there mates,

Sorry to budge in and I've actually posted this question in one of the threads but since no one replies I'm going to start my very own topic here.

My question is, anyone out there could give me some pointers on planning a 1 year trip to Europe?

I'm from Malaysia and I, too plan on traveling to Europe for 6 months to a year (happens 2 years later). Yeah I know it's a long time to plan but I still need to figure out the nitty gritty so I could go to sleep at night, I've been so excited about this every day ever since I had this idea in mind!

However, I'm not really sure how would the Visa issue work on me, could you elaborate more on this part?

Also, I'm curious, about the Budget issue, how much would necessary be "Enough", I've read about inns, and others even set up tents to save cost, but from professional travelers' point of view, what is the best method that I could figure out the rough sum?

I'd gladly pick up any books, or guides to help me out in my 1) Budget planning, and my 2) Trip planning. I don't have to buy things, but I want to get the most experience out of my trip - meeting nice people, great sceneries..

Please give me a pointer or two on this. Thanks dudes!


2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

As Malaysian citizen you can enter the Schengen Area visa-free, so the same rules apply for you as for an Australian citizen.

Do you intend to get to get a Working Holiday visa for the UK?

Then it is going to be 3 months inside Schengen, 3 months outside Schengen. Most people usually spend the 3 months outside Schengen working in the UK or travelling around the non-Schengen countries in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.

Things are not going to be cheap, you need at least 60 EUR per day if you travel by train, stay in hostels and buy all your food from the supermarkets.

3. Posted by joejoechen (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

Alright, so I'm going by the same Visa rule as an Australian. Got it.

Well if it's like what you roughly gauged - 60 Euros per day, I just pulled up my calculator and Gosh it's like RM100,000 (1Euro = RM5 ++), but yeah I think I'm quite fine with it considering my income after 2 years..

So there goes my Working Visa, I don't really think I'd need one, but do you mean the 3 months in and 3 months out rule applies on me, if only I were to apply for 1 working visa?

Thank T_maia for your reply, I really needed someone expert like you to explain things.

Well, do you have any books or websites to recommend to help me plan my trip so the maximum? I'm looking at the Travellerspoint Europe introduction page and WoW MAN there're soooo many nice places that I could go to.. I'm literally overloaded now haha!


4. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Well, the 90 days in and 91 days out rule applies to you anyway, whether you have a WHV visa for the UK or not.

One of the best places to spend the 91 days in are the UK and Ireland, simply because there are good transport options to almost all of Europe. So you might as well spent those 91 days working in the UK.

EDIT: The 60 EUR per day are some sort of minimum budget, this is to make sure you do not need to sleep in the streets or go hungry. The sky is the limit, some people (those who party a lot) plan on 100-150 EUR per day.

And if you were to attend language lessons in one of the Schengen countries you could stay inside the Schengen area for a whole year, but then you have to go through the hassle of getting a residency permit for the relevant country. WHV for the UK is the better option if you ask me.

[ Edit: Edited on 27-Jul-2009, at 23:40 by t_maia ]

5. Posted by joejoechen (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

Sorry Double posted, connection fault

[ Edit: Edited on 27-Jul-2009, at 23:41 by joejoechen ]

6. Posted by joejoechen (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

Yeah I could travel-work I suppose, I'm into Internet Marketing, so I don't have working boundaries.

Alright.. So as you've said, I should stay in UK and Ireland for the 90 days, I'd plan a 3 months there.. and there're still 9 months left, and I will need to go to some other schegen areas according to the rule..

So conclusion, UK first (3 months), well that certainly cuts down alot of work on my research, I'd just go check on what places that I could be visiting to fill up the 3 months stay.

Now, there are 9 months left.. Where else do you suggest to get the FULL overview on Europe?


[ Edit: Edited on 27-Jul-2009, at 23:50 by joejoechen ]

7. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

IIRC the UK WHV visa is for 2 years , so you could plan for 2 years.

91 days working in the UK, 90 days travelling, 91 days working in the UK, 90 days travelling, etc...

Also Schengen rules say it is 90 days in a 180 day period. So you could travel all over Europe, hopping in and out of the UK and Ireland. 1 week inside the Schengen area, 2 weeks outside, 2 months inside, etc. You get the idea. All you have to do is make sure you spent more time outside (even if it is just one day) than inside.

The best solution would be to work part-time in the UK. Get a contract that allows you to work 20 hours per week for 2 years. Then work 40 hours per week for 1 month and take the next month off. (I met an Australian who had such a contract, she shared her work with another guy from NZ. Everytime she took time off he worked and vice versa.)

Or would you rather learn French, German or Italian than work in the UK?

Where else do you suggest to get the FULL overview on Europe?

Full overwiev is impossible. But you can safely plan on 2-4 weeks per country and 4-7 days for each big city.