Skip Navigation

Becoming a Master/Diving Instructor

Travel Forums General Talk Becoming a Master/Diving Instructor

1. Posted by MikeAllen (Full Member 129 posts) 7y

Hi im going travelling with my fiancee to australia in september (8 weeks) :) and we are both going to do a 5 day PADI course in cairns on the great barrier reef.

My question is what qualification/s do i need to be a diving instrcutor how many dives do i have to do before i can take my master course?

Also i have been looking at diving courses in asia (thailand) and they are alot cheaper. Would a PADI Master course taken in Thailand be the same level and widely accepted as a PADI course taken in Australia?

Im looking at doing an open water course with my fiancee first in october http://www.prodive.com.au/Scuba_Lessons_Info.asp?PD=5+Day+PADI+Learn+to+Scuba+Dive+Course&section=Learn+to+Dive&region=Cairns&PT=Openwater+Courses&Dive_Center=PRO+DIVE+Cairns

and then 6 months me and my best mate want to do a master course to become diving instructors can anyone recommend any courses?

2. Posted by Piecar (Travel Guru 894 posts) 7y

You should be asking the specific questions of the FAQ of PADI, or, I hear in Australia, the winner of certs is NAUI.

Good luck. I have been a divemaster and it can be GREAT...and fucking dull as shit. I wrote a big thing after that, but I'll leave it here.

Have fun and good luck out there or GLOT

D

3. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 7y

I agree with Derek - check the FAQs on PADI and I also recommend joining the forums on www.scubaboard.com. Also check out the flow chart on this page of PADI's site. You can click each box of the flow chart to get an idea of which courses/specialty dives need to be done. It does not give the number of dives you need to log between trainings but you'll find more answers on PADI and on scubaboard. As far as I know (or at least remember from the advanced training) when discussing certification advancement, the number of logged dives for each advancement does not change depending on where you take the course - only the price does. PADI sets the guidelines that all of their instructors need to follow. Keep in mind, if you get your open water through PADI, then take your advanced somewhere else through NAUI - the requirements may vary from PADI's. (Could be more, could be less.)

My husband and I are advanced open water certified. We'd love to get our dive master certs but just don't have the time nor money at the moment. Such is life. Again, Derek is correct about OZ supporting NAUI, more than PADI, of recent. I heard that too. Though I did my initial training through Scuba Schools International (SSI - which also allowed me to receive an SSI, NAUI & PADI card upon completion), our advanced is through PADI. Our local dive shop switched to NAUI a couple of years ago and several others in the area are doing the same. (Sorry - forgot to say we're not in OZ but in the US.)

4. Posted by Thai Diver (Budding Member 3 posts) 7y

Hello Mike,

Pro Dive Cairns has an incredibly good reputation so your Open Water Diver course will likely be excellent. Pro Die also does a ton of instructor training courses but, as you noted, they are much much more expensive than in Thailand.

That is definitely NOT to say courses offered in Thaialnd are inferior. In many places they are, in fact, superior to other locations due to the number of people that train in Thailand and the competition to get those customers. Good shops compete on quality and pass rates, not price. But the low cost of living and labor means these centers can offer the same product for less.

In your post you are mixing some terms. Let me clear these up for you. There are 4 levels of dive proessional you an obtain in your first two years of diving:

  • Dive Master -- A professionally certified ASSISTANT. DMs cannot teach, but they help instructors and lead dives.
  • Open Water Scuba Instructor -- The first-level PADI Instructor. Can teach all basic PADI courses.
  • Master Scuba Diver Trainer -- Second level instructor who can also teach PADI specialty courses.
  • IDC Staff Instructor -- Can teach all courses above as well as the Instructor Development Course.

-- To become a Dive Master you must have a minimum of 60 dives.
-- To become an OWSI or higher you must have 100 dives and have been an Open Water diver for at least 6 months.

Once you do your OW course, you've gotten that "6 month clock" running and can then enroll in one of the Thailand "interships" that package up all your courses, materials, equipment, accommodations, fees and job placement into a low-price all-inclusive package.

When choosing a program you only want to consider those offered by PADI 5-Star CAREER Development Centers. These are the only ones explicitly authorized by PADI to offer professional career-development programs.

Also focus on those with the best track record. At the moment, students from the one linked below has a 100% pass rate for more than 2 consecutive years. The program also includes more than others and has its own in-house job placement:

-snip-

Good luck and ejoy The Reef!

[ Edit: Sorry, no promos please. ]

5. Posted by MikeAllen (Full Member 129 posts) 7y

Thanks this is a great help, Im definatly looking to do my open water in Cairns but now on the fence for the divemaster course. So i need to have usually 60 dives to do a PADI divemasters? how come some sites say you only need 20 or 30 dives does it very or are they not offical?
Also what is the best way (i mean cheapest) to build up logged dives.. should i go to thailand and asia do i have to do diving with PADI certified centres to be able to log the dive.

Sorry if i seem clueless but truth is atm with diving i am..
thanks
Mike

Quoting Thai Diver

Hello Mike,

Pro Dive Cairns has an incredibly good reputation so your Open Water Diver course will likely be excellent. Pro Die also does a ton of instructor training courses but, as you noted, they are much much more expensive than in Thailand.

That is definitely NOT to say courses offered in Thaialnd are inferior. In many places they are, in fact, superior to other locations due to the number of people that train in Thailand and the competition to get those customers. Good shops compete on quality and pass rates, not price. But the low cost of living and labor means these centers can offer the same product for less.

In your post you are mixing some terms. Let me clear these up for you. There are 4 levels of dive proessional you an obtain in your first two years of diving:

  • Dive Master -- A professionally certified ASSISTANT. DMs cannot teach, but they help instructors and lead dives.
  • Open Water Scuba Instructor -- The first-level PADI Instructor. Can teach all basic PADI courses.
  • Master Scuba Diver Trainer -- Second level instructor who can also teach PADI specialty courses.
  • IDC Staff Instructor -- Can teach all courses above as well as the Instructor Development Course.

-- To become a Dive Master you must have a minimum of 60 dives.
-- To become an OWSI or higher you must have 100 dives and have been an Open Water diver for at least 6 months.

Once you do your OW course, you've gotten that "6 month clock" running and can then enroll in one of the Thailand "interships" that package up all your courses, materials, equipment, accommodations, fees and job placement into a low-price all-inclusive package.

When choosing a program you only want to consider those offered by PADI 5-Star CAREER Development Centers. These are the only ones explicitly authorized by PADI to offer professional career-development programs.

Also focus on those with the best track record. At the moment, students from the one linked below has a 100% pass rate for more than 2 consecutive years. The program also includes more than others and has its own in-house job placement:

-snip-

Good luck and ejoy The Reef!

[ Edit: Sorry, no promos please. ]

6. Posted by Thai Diver (Budding Member 3 posts) 7y

You can START the Divemaster course with 20 dives, but you must have 60 before you can be certified.

Least-expensive way to log those dives? Get into a program like Aquanauts that offers UNLIMITED diving during the internship. Over 3 months you can get like 150 dives while doing your courses.

Logging dives is not agency specific. You can go with any certified diver from any agency and record it (with their signature or stamp) in your log book.

7. Posted by MikeAllen (Full Member 129 posts) 7y

Nice one, so if i want to become a diving instructor after achieving my openwater should i do a DM course or an Instructor course as the DM is included in most Instructor Courses.

How many dives do you have to do before i can be a certified instructor, thanks for all your help!

Mike

8. Posted by MikeAllen (Full Member 129 posts) 7y

To become an OWSI or higher you must have 100 dives and have been an Open Water diver for at least 6 months.

Is this standard for all Instructor courses? is a Scuba Instrcutor the same as a PADI instructor?

thanks

9. Posted by Thai Diver (Budding Member 3 posts) 7y

Hello again Mike,

For most people, Divemaster is merely a step on the road to becoming an instructor. As simple assistants, DMs don't get paid much (if anything) and the work is pretty routine. Instructing is where its at if you want to work in the industry and make a wage you can live on.

You'll need 100 dives in your logbook before you can take the Instructor Exam. But, again, you'll be logging dives as you go from Open Water to Advanced to Rescue Diver to DM to OWSi.

Programs like I've mentioned are cheaper if you enroll in the Instructor one. I know Aquanauts lets you take a break for up to a year between DM and Instructor if you want, or you can just plunge right through.

All my comments regarding standards (number of dives required, etc.), by the way, relate only to PADI. I don't know the standards for the othe rminor agencies. PADI has a 75% worldwide market share, so theirs is really the only certificaiton you want to get.