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11. Posted by gusmac (Budding Member 8 posts) 7y

Thanks heaps for your replies, but I have to say now I am a little worried, the original plan was to spend a week in London, have a friend there so cheap accomodation buy a campervan and then head south to get to the warm weather southern spain sound pretty good and then make our way around there. Portugal, Corsica, France, Italy and then as it starts to get nuts over summer head back to the UK taking in paris spend 6 weeks in the UK and then make our way through Germany, Austria, Czech, Hungary, Croatia etc. The Schengen agreement worries me it seems as though the only hideouts are the UK, Morocco, and Croatia. We were planning to take it easy, and not plan anything but it looks as though we will have to plan to be out of partiular countries in 90 days and then spend more time in others. Would it be worth applying for a visa? Again thanks for all your replies - and does this itinery sound ok?

12. Posted by fabyomama (Respected Member 560 posts) 7y

I think your itinerary sounds perfect. Just didn't realize how bloody complicated it still is for Aussies/Americans, etc, wanting to stay a while. I thought we were all bosum buddies just turn up kind of thing. Anyway, t_maia is the real expert here and has other threads concerning this stuff, so I'm not going to queer the pitch. Seems Eastern Europe is an option. Not been there yet, but heard great things.

On the bright side - your friend's address in the UK is really going to simplify sorting out the van documents - though I'd count on a bit more than a week to get things sorted. Nothing desperate though - especially in London.

edit: I'll be honest with you. I'm seriously thinking about getting a van.

[ Edit: Edited on 09-Aug-2009, at 03:14 by fabyomama ]

13. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Would it be worth applying for a visa?

If you want to travel around the Schengen Area for longer than 90 days there is no way around it.

Since you are Australian the easiest way to do that would be to apply for a Working Holiday Visa in one of the Schengen states, say Germany or France.

http://anyworkanywhere.com/whvaucit.html

AFAIK you have to apply for the WHV while you are still in Australia.

The WHV would also give you the opportunity to work if you find you need the cash. (Europe is expensive after all and shit happens.)

14. Posted by robc8 (Budding Member 5 posts) 7y

I did the camper thing many years ago and it was the best way to see Europe.

I bought a VW van in front of the American Express office in Amsterdam for
$300 CDN and sold it there several months later for the same amount.

Sadly, things are more complicated these days. I believe you will have difficulty
both registering and insuring a vehicle unless you can prove residency.

These people seem to offer a decent and reasonably priced service:

http://www.dutchcampervans.com/index.htm

They no longer offer a guaranteed buyback but I believe they will resell
your vehicle for you when you're finished your trip.

Good luck!

Rob

15. Posted by gusmac (Budding Member 8 posts) 7y

Thanks heaps for the info everyone, after the chaos of first finding out about the shegenen agreement and reading as much info a I could the travel interary is the following - and all legal too!

Fly into Paris - starting the shegen
Get to London - stay 2 weeks buying a van and get a service all neccesary documents etc insurance will be with HIC travel insurance.
Spend a month to get to Morocco where the weather will be hot (hotter) and cruise around there for a month. At this stage I can spend three months in Europe. I can either make my way to Croatia, along the mediterranean in the amazing weather that will be spring.
OR make my way to the UK so we can spend the hotter months touring the UK and IReland.

This is the question, would it be better to spend July and August in the UK or croatia, your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

If i got the route of the UK, i would spend 2 months there, then i would have 2 months to get to croatia via italy in september and then 1 month in croatia and then 1 month via czech, austria, germany to get back to london and back home.

Really enjoying this forum, your input has been fantastic ,

cheers gus

16. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

Fly into Paris - starting the shegen
Get to London - stay 2 weeks buying a van and get a service all neccesary documents etc insurance will be with HIC travel insurance.
Spend a month to get to Morocco where the weather will be hot (hotter) and cruise around there for a month. At this stage I can spend three months in Europe. I can either make my way to Croatia, along the mediterranean in the amazing weather that will be spring.
OR make my way to the UK so we can spend the hotter months touring the UK and IReland.

This is the question, would it be better to spend July and August in the UK or croatia, your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

If i got the route of the UK, i would spend 2 months there, then i would have 2 months to get to croatia via italy in september and then 1 month in croatia and then 1 month via czech, austria, germany to get back to london and back home.

I cannot follow how you compute the time inside and outside Schengen. Care to elaborate?

17. Posted by gusmac (Budding Member 8 posts) 7y

Hi T_maia,

Sorry about the confusion, this is the plan

Fly into paris, thus starting the shegen then go to London for a couple of weeks to buy the campervan so

2 day schegen
2 weeks not schegen
2 weeks shegen - travel to morocco
4 weeks not schegen - in morocco

At this stage we have spent roughly 14 days in shegen and then 42 out -

75 days in shegen - head to croatia along the atlantic and then mediterranean soaking up the beach life

6 weeks in croatia, bosnia, montengro cruising in the beach life

thus completing 90 days in and 90 days out

At this point in time have been in europe for 6 months then we have 6 weeks to make it back to the UK (via czeh republic, hungary, austria, germany) where we tour and finish the trip

Bulletproof!

What do you think and I hope this makes sense,

gus

18. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

No, not bulletproof.

then we have 6 weeks to make it back to the UK

You won't have 6 weeks, because counting of the 180 day period starts everytime you enter the Schengen Area.

Say you enter the Schengen Area from Morocco on April 1st. You'll then have 90 days inside Schengen between April 1st and Sep 27th.

Travelling for 75 days will land you in Croatia on June 14th. Six weeks in Croatia and neighboring non-Schengen countries will be July 26th.

Taking off the 75 days you plan to use to travel from Morocco to Croatia you are left with 15 days to get back to the UK in the period between July 26th and September 27th.

It would be much easier to just get a WHV for one of the Schengen Area states. I suggest Germany, it is the least complicated from what I know.

I also don't see the point of flying into Paris if you plan to go to London immediately afterwards. I would fly into London if I was you.

BTW, I need to do some more calculations regarding the dates of entry. Actual dates would be helpful.

[ Edit: Edited on 12-Aug-2009, at 06:33 by t_maia ]

19. Posted by gusmac (Budding Member 8 posts) 7y

Hi T_maia,

Thanks for all your help, this is more complicated than I ever imagined, the next question is if you have a WHV in a particular country does this count as time in the shegen area.

For example if I have a WHV for germany and I spend 60 days touring around can I then spend 90 days touring in a shegen area or can I just spend 30?

Cheers gus

20. Posted by gusmac (Budding Member 8 posts) 7y

Dear T_maia,

Just back to the last email, (bulletproof) that is why you enter paris and therefore kick - off the 180 day period early. If the 180 day clock resets every time you enter then after 6 weeks in croatia the clock will reset and you should get 6 weeks travel as it is not consective. I hope you can understand my reasoning,

gus