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11. Posted by cameron69 (Budding Member 6 posts) 7y

I have friends and family all over Scotland. I hope to-be using there beds as much as we can.
My girl friend and I haven’t set a date yet to start or trip. We live in Whitehorse Yukon Canada. So we are giving up or jobs packing all or stuff in the truck, drive 3000 km to Vancouver with or cats… that’s going to be a trip in its self. Drop all our crap with the parents including the cats..
Now depending on the Canadian dollar we may start or trip in Hawaii for a few weeks to get a tan before running off to Europe..
This all ways brings up the nagging prospect of traveling to Europe in winter … do you have any recommendation of were to hang out in January and February.. I have been looking at Faro.. or Morocco?

12. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

This all ways brings up the nagging prospect of traveling to Europe in winter … do you have any recommendation of were to hang out in January and February.. I have been looking at Faro.. or Morocco?

Morocco is a good idea, mainly because it is cheap and relatively mild. But even in Agadir it won't really be sun and beach weather and up in the mountains there is a decent chance of snow. Considering what you are used to the winter will seem mild to you though.

But if you are coming over in Jan/March and want warm weather my recommendation would be to fly down to Egypt and go north to Turkey. This is a classic overland trip that is fairly well trodden, it will take you about 2-3 months to do it. The only problem is getting a visa to Syria, but that can be sorted out too. If you do this and then continue from Istanbul to Greece and Italy you will be hitting Europe at just the right time.

13. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 7y

At this time I have us at (85 euro) a day.

Sounds fine if you are a bit careful. Since you don't want to stay in hostels I would recommend travelling by car (buy an old clunker) and taking a tent.

Reading through this again and doing the math and conversion from 4000 Canadian dollars per month for 2 people I realised that you meant the 85 EUR per day for 2 people.

In this case - no, it is not nearly enough.

The ultra minimum budget for most of Europe is 50 EUR per day and person, so for 2 people you are looking at 100 EUR per day and person. Minimum budget means just enough money to buy bread and cheese from the supermarket, drink water from the tap, sleep in the cheapest hostels or with a tent on camping sites and then still wonder whether you have enough money to afford the entry fee to a site.

Recommended budget for touring Europe is approx. 60-80 EUR per day and person, so when I wrote "85 EUR per day is ok if you are a bit careful" I automatically assumed that you had 85 EUR per person. I am sorry for jumping to that conclusion, but it was easy to make because you didn't want to stay in hostels - thus I assumed that you had the money for more expensive accomodation.

Prices for travelling in Europe (per day for one person, double them for you):
15-30 EUR for a bed in a hostel
7-25 EUR for sleeping on a camping site
5-15 EUR for food from snackstalls and supermarkets, no eating out
20-40 EUR for transport (rental car, train tickets, eurail pass, ...)
5-15 EUR for local transport within a city
5-40 EUR for entry to sights

From this chart alone you can see that having 43 EUR per day and person is not going to cut it. If I was you I would significantly shorten the trip so that you have a budget of 60 EUR per day and person. At the current exchange rate this is approx. 5700 Canadian dollars per month for both of you.

Again I am sorry for the mistake I made.

BTW, budget for going Egypt to Turkey can be significantly lower. There you can calculate with roughly 20-25 EUR per day and person for Egypt, Jordan and Syria and with 35-45 EUR per day and person in Turkey. So one month in Egypt is going to cost you approx. 2400 CAD for the 2 of you and one month in Turkey approx. 3500 CAD.

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