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11. Posted by jiew (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

People,
Here's the 2nd mock itinerary:

28aug (3 days) - London Stansted airport. We may do day trip to Liverpool or Manchester if time allow
31aug (4 days) - Travel to Paris with our last day in Dijon
04sept (2 days) - Milan
06sept (2 days) - Venice
8sept (3 days) - Florence
11sept (3 days) - Rome
14sept (4 days) - Ludwigsburg (to visit bro-in-law), will do day trip to Munich and Frankfurt
18sept (3 days) - Amsterdam
21sept (3 days) - Brussels
24sept - London
25sept - Depart to KL

Questions:
(1) Which transportation would you suggest is cheaper, more reliable and convenient for us to travel between cities and countries? Is it Eurolines / Eurail or Flights?

(2) Is there any surcharge for any of the transportation if we book our seats in advanced?

(3) What will be the travelling time between cities? (We are trying to get a map so we can estimate the amount of time we need but any rough idea now would be great)

(4) Any suggestions on the transportation we should use for our schedule?

Thanks guys!

12. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

04sept (2 days) - Milan
06sept (2 days) - Venice
8sept (3 days) - Florence
11sept (3 days) - Rome

As somebody already wrote it would be better if you skipped Milan. Two days for Venice and 3 days for Florence and Rome is nothing.

14sept (4 days) - Ludwigsburg (to visit bro-in-law), will do day trip to Munich and Frankfurt

Forget about the day trip to Munich and Frankfurt. I know Ludwigsburg, thus I suggest you go and see the castle and gardens in Ludwigsburg and maybe go for a musical in Stuttgart. For a typical small and very pretty German town go to Tübingen, it is just 1 hour by car south of Stuttgart.

http://www.tuebingen.de/en/1559.html

I can also assure you that there is absolutely nothing to see in Frankfurt. You can see the main sights in about 6 hours, so it is hardly worth the trip. I recommend that you only go there if you have a flight out of FRA airport. Better go to Tübingen, less travelling time and more to see.

13. Posted by lil_lil (Travel Guru 462 posts) 6y

As far as I can see, there's no difference between the two itineraries except for the day 29 is now not London and instead flight to KL. I understand that you would like to do as much as possible, but sometimes, less is definitely more.

1) I don't think there will be time for you to go to Liverpool or Manchester. There's so much to do in London. Your first day is not a full day already as it is, so barely 2 days and a few hours for London to start. I know you'll be back to London at the end of the trip, but by then you'll be quite tired that you'll most likely just want to take it easy.

2) Given the distances you're travelling are not exactly too big in general, you're better off travelling by train. If you're dilligent enough to book tickets ahead, you won't need a rail pass. There are often discounted tickets online. The tickets are normally released for sale from about 3 months prior to travel. Here are the relevant train sites:

  • London-Paris, Brussels-London: Eurostar
  • France: Voyages-SNCF
  • Italy: Trenitalia
  • Germany: Bahn.de
  • Dutch: NS travellers

With trains that originate and end in different countries, no harm checking sites for both countries, and see which has a cheaper promotional offer.

3) Tickets booked are as per priced at times of booking and fast train tickets are subject to reservation charges. No additional surcharge on top of that. Select ticketless ticket, so there won't be issue re posting the tickets to you etc. Instead pick them up at the station, or some allows you to print the confirmation straighyt at home. Sometimes, the price display is just the standard price, of which you need to select which time/service you want to travel and the next page should then show you relevant discounts available.

4) You can check travel time from the train websites, It's more accurate than you trying to figure from map. Plus I've previously gave you indication of the majority of the travelling time so I won't go through that once again.

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