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1. Posted by dnicholson (Full Member 146 posts) 7y

There are a lot of countries who have death penalties in their laws as punishments to certain crimes. Do you agree with it? Wouldn't it be the same as murder?

2. Posted by BedouinLeo (Inactive 698 posts) 7y

My view is.. Too many innocent people have been executed.
I think the alternative should be 'Life, with hard labour'. OK, very harsh on the innocent victims, but at least when they're proven not-guilty no matter how ling it takes, they will possibly still be alive to enjoy freedom and maybe even prosecution of the people that put them in jail originally.
The death penalty in my opinion is far too harsh.
In Britain, lifers get treated better than the victim's families. It's a total disgrace.

3. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 7y

I have turned against the death penalty for the simple reason that juries make too many mistakes. Barry Scheck & Peter Neufeld run the Innocence Project and have helped over 240 prisoners gain their freedom through DNA testing. 17 of these were on death row. Since we know juries make mistakes, it just makes sense to sentence convicted murderers to life w/o parole. That way a wrongful conviction can be corrected. It is also cheaper to sentence a prisoner to life w/o than the death penalty. At least here in the US. A death penalty case has many more costly appeal options than a case w/o the death penalty. Lock them up, let them die in prison if guilty. My 2 cents.

4. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 7y

The death penalty also makes juries less likely to convict. You could argue that this isn't a bad thing, but an awful lot more prosecutions fail in death penalty cases as the jury won't reach a verdict. For this reason, but more for the potential mistakes discussed by Mike and Leo, it should even be considered.

I'm personally against it anyway as I'm not for killing or causing physical pain to anyone for any reason.

5. Posted by opospa (Travel Guru 1837 posts) 7y

In my opinion, death penalties should be practice. For South East Asia for example, although countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia etc practice that for those who has drugs, and yet there are some people who dare enough to do that. Lately Iranian tourists get caught in Indonesian airports for trafficking drugs. It is a murder but those people who choose to go on suicide.

6. Posted by makka (Respected Member 248 posts) 7y

IMO the death penalty should only be used when 100% evidence is proven that someone took someone elses life.

Life for a life.

7. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 7y

There are some truly evil people on this planet who, through their actions, give up their right to life.

8. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 7y

Quoting james

There are some truly evil people on this planet who, through their actions, give up their right to life.

I agree with that. There are countless examples of people that should no longer be on the planet. My problem with the death penalty in the US is how many times the jury got it wrong. I guess we should not be surprised. A person's fate is being decided by 12 people who were not smart enough to avoid jury duty!

9. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5597 posts) 7y

I don't know about other countries, but here in the Netherlands we do have a system where people who are not 100% sane are threated while others go to prison.
That is not said that those first group will be off better: they can have life sentence if they are not capable of going back to society again. The other group (prison) usually get about 2/3 of their jail sentence with good behaviour. Although there are examples of life sentences without any hope of release whatsoever as well.

Also, I am not saying that the first group is not totally responsible for all what that they have caused. I am just making clear that there is a difference. The reason for this is that those persons do not deserve death penalty.

Of course, like with jury convinctions, it is not always 100% sure whether someone is sane/insane, but from first hand I know that people who make these judgements are quite good at their job!!

People who are sane and do kill and rape, deserve, in some but certainly not most cases, death penalty. They have chosen to do so (accident killings, in a fight for example are not one of those in my opinion for example) and in those cases death penalty: yeah I am for it, not against. But basically it comes down to some of the most awful criminal activities and should be given on very irregular basis. This is one of the biggest challenges I guess.

In some countries, where cheating or being gay means death penalty: that is just madness, they are living in another world, ruled usually by insane fundamentalists!

10. Posted by vegasmike6 (Travel Guru 3562 posts) 7y

I heard about this case on the radio. It seems you can be put to death in Saudi Arabia for 'witchcraft'. Just possessing a book deemed to be about sorcery or witchcraft can be a death sentence. It is against Sharia Law to insult Islam. Remember the calls for death to the cartoonist that 'insulted Islam.? Same thing here. Sorcery is an insult to Islam and you can be sentenced to death for reading or promoting another religion in Saudi. Is it any wonder that Islam has an image problem?