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1. Posted by awal3207 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y

Just to be sure as I seem to wasting a lot of time finding no answers.

Is there anyway of legally travelling exclusively in Schlengen Zones for greater than 90 days within a 180 day period.
I am an Australian national.

The only possible loop hole i have yet to find a definate answer on is gaining a combination C and D-type Visa. This loop hole seems to be closed as countries such as the Netherlands do not require Australian (and other) nationals to obtain temporary visa's for stays of longer than 90 days. The rules for travel to other Schlengen countries from a Dutch base are very hard to come by. I have sent queries but as of yet have recieved no answer.

Thanks for any help

Andrew

2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

The easiest way to your dilemma is to apply for a residency permit in Germany. The process is relatively easy and straightforward. Let me know if you need more information.

It might also be possible that you can apply for a residency permit in the Netherlands, check out http://www.ind.nl/EN/ for more info. Just note the steep fees - which is why I recommend applying in Germany if this is a practical option for your plans.

3. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

Cotinued from this thread.

Are the following correct in this case?

1. I thoughout becoming a temprary resident (D-type Visa) was not valid for tourism reasons.
2. Nationals from a number of countries (including US, Australia etc.) do not require MVV/temporary visas there fore no cost should be involved.
3. Even if you resided in the Netherlands/Germany for two years, based on Schlengen Zone Visa rules you can only still only spend a maxium of 90 days per 180 days in Schlengen Zones outside of the Netherlands/Germany given you do not have 'European' passports.

Andrew

(Sorry for recent replies revolving around same topics)

1. Yes, you cannot become a temporary resident for tourism reasons. But you can apply for being a resident for other reasons, say because you are taking language classes. Since in most cases nobody will check whether you actually attend those language classes this is an easy way to get a temporary residency permit.

2. You usually pay a fee for applying for the residency permit. The fees varies depending on the Schengen coutry where you apply.

3. Yes, but this is hard to control. As long as you got a valid residency permit for one of the Schengen countries you can travel all over. Immigration authorities would have to suspect you of actually living in another Schengen country where you don't have a residency permit before you get into serious trouble.

Note that if you stay away from Germany for away for a certain amount of time (180 days in this case) your residency permit becomes invalid automatically.

4. Posted by awal3207 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y

Thanks for all your help.

I have a couple more question regarding the 90 days in 90 days out rule. I have not been able to find an answer for scrolling throught he forums.

1. When does the 180 days period start. Will it start when i fly into the UK in February or does it only start once I enter the EU?

2. Can you break up the time

eg 1 month in the EU, 2 months out, 2 months in, one month out = 90/180

then just do 3 months straight given you met the criteria above for the first 6 months

Thanks

5. Posted by Adri204 (Budding Member 82 posts) 6y

You have 90 days withen a 180 day period. It starts the moment you enter the Schwegan (sp) zone. So for example Im planning a trip. I am going to spend about 2monthes or so in the UK and I am allowed 90 days out of 180 days. So then I will head in to mainland europe and spend a few monthes traveling around again im allowed a maximum of 90 days out of 180 days. I can go in and out of the Schwegan zone as long as I DONT exceed 90 days out of 180 days. So yes you can leave and return as long as you keep in mind you only have 90 days out of 180 days to travel. UK is separate from the rest. Turkey is also a max of 90 days out of 180 days. Iceland is also 90 days out of 180 days. Yes you are allowed to leave and return as long as you dont go over 90 days in 180 days. If your caught over that time you can get fined and not allowed to return for however long the officals deem. I hope this helps,

Adri :)

6. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

1. When does the 180 days period start. Will it start when i fly into the UK in February or does it only start once I enter the EU?

When you enter the Schengen Area.

The UK is part of the EU, but it is not part of the Schengen Area.

2. Can you break up the time

YES.

eg 1 month in the Schengen Area, 2 months out, 2 months in, one month out

YES, as long as you watch out for the 90/180 days rule. A month is not always 30 days!!!! You need to count the exact number of days.