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1. Posted by blake12345 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y

Hey,

Me and my Girlfriend are looking at travelling to Europe in a year or so.

We are planning on landing in Paris and spending a week in and around Paris after a small stop off in New York, then head down to Rome for a few days, make our way up to Switzerland for a week, then make our way to the Netherlands via Germany where id like to spend a day or 2. We'll then head across to Scotland for a week then head down through England visiting family and the like and end up in London for a few days before we fly back to Australia. Im hoping to spend about 6-7 weeks.

Anyway we're not wanting to spend up big but we dont want to stay in crappy accommodation and eat noodles every day and night. We are looking at getting around with public transport and maybe hiring a car for a few days in Switzerland.

So my question is what would people budget as a minimum for accommodation and food. Im only wanting a really rough idea. I was thinking of about AU$100 (61.8967 EUR) for me and AU$100 for my Girlfriend per day. Am i kidding myself to think we'll only need that much? This is without spending money.

Thanks Blake

2. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 6y

Yeah, you will be able to travel on 120 euros a day for the two of you. If you do hostels, you can get beds for 20 - 30 euros a night (sometimes less). That would leave you with 60 - 80 euros for food, shopping, attractions, etc.

I'd look at how you are wanting to get around, and see if there are sections of travelling that you'd want to book in advance to keep the costs down. Some trains and buses you can just roll up to and get a decent price, but some legs you might want to book in advance to get a cheaper fare.

Greg

3. Posted by blake12345 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y

Thanks Greg, what is the quality of hostels in Europe?

We are wanting to pre book as much as we can so that its all organised and then we can save for spending money after we pay for everything else.

4. Posted by elisaferra (Budding Member 11 posts) 6y

Hei,
I'm living in the Alps (northern Italy), which is in the centre of Europe. As I travelled a lot around Europe I recommend to take the train and to book a interrail ticket, which allows u to travel in more countries in Europe for a fix price and for a certain period. (the tickets are available in every railway station). This is in my eyes the cheapest way to travel around. Also the hostels are good quality... in Switzerland they might be more expensive than in all other countries (but Switzerland is in general a bit expensive).. if you have more questions just ask...
I'm going to Australia in Feb, so we could make a bit of info exchange...
cheers and have fun in Europe
Elisa

5. Posted by blake12345 (Budding Member 3 posts) 6y

Hi Elisa, Thanks for the reply. Yeh i was thinking rail would be the best way around but i wasnt sure if that was the "tourist" way around.

I have heard Switzerland is expensive so im prepared for that. I do have another question. If i was to learn a language to help me get around what would be the best?

But yes if you need any info. about Australia just ask im willing to help.

Thanks Blake

6. Posted by Geminilion (Inactive 2 posts) 6y

Hello!
I take the time to post a reply to your original as I think I can provide you with some good informations.
To start with, I have to admit that 100€ per day per person in Europe in Capital cities like Paris is for me totally unreal. I would never be able to live with such a budget. If you can and still enjoy life, well done! I don't say that you can't. I am just saying it is going to be rough! Particularly for the accomodations.
I have no suggestions for berthing in Paris that will fit your budget.
On the other hand, eating cheap in Paris, I know!
I do seach for such things and as it is very much demanded by other travellers that come to Paris on other blog - not only this one, I have accumulated a list of very good places in Paris where you can eat cheap.
Cheap restaurants Paris :
1st arr.:
Au Jess Café, 2, quai de la Messagerie, M° Chatelet, I like, of course only in summer, the terrasse with a view of the Conciergerie and Notre Dame, interior a bit colonial, big salads and pizzas, from 10€ on.
La Cloche des Halles, 28, rue Coquillière, M° Louvre, you cannot miss it, there is a bell (cloche) hanging outside the restaurant which is at the corner of rue Coquillière et rue du Bouloi, delicatessen, cheeses, from 11€ on.
Le Bistrôt des Victoires, 6, rue de la Vrillière, M° Louvre-Rivoli, just in front of Banque de France, in case you need some cash before entering the restaurant, traditional parisian bistrot, from 10€ on.
Nylsa Cafe, 6, rue de la Cassonnerie, M° Les Halles, italian, fresh and high quality food from the market, from 8,50€ on.
2nd:
Cantoche Paname, 97, rue Montmartre, M° Les Halles, plat du jour (dish of the day) from 8,50€ on.
Le Mestruet, 77, rue de Richelieu, M° Bourse, at the corner of rue de Richelieu and rue Saint Augustin, very close of the gardens of Palais Royal (one of my favourite place in Paris, a haven in the middle of the hectic center of Paris) french traditional cuisine, you have to eat there at least once in your lifetime to test their « Malin », a plate divided in 4, starter, main dish, cheeses and dessert, 9,50€, or try one of their dish of the day + a glass of wine + café, 10€;
Les Recettes des Copines, 17, rue Saint Marc, M° Bourse, high quality, great quantity and low bill. You know what is a quiche? They have probably the best in town! Great salads. So a quiche + a salad + a drink, 8,80€.
Le Pain quotidian, 2, rue des Petits-Carreaux, M° Sentier, do you know what a “tartine” is? Kind of open sandwich with a lot of good stuff on it; you think it is too little? Try one and you’ll see how it feeds you! From 7,80€ on.
3rd:
Au Duc de Montmorency, 46, rue de Montmorency, M° Arts-et-Metier, excellent cuisine, a dish from 7,90 on and if you like beers, that’s your place, there are more than 94.
4th:
La Victoire Suprême du Coeur, 27, rue du Bourg-Tibourb, M° Hotel de Ville ; just the name itself is a pearl: The Supreme Victory of the Heart ; if you find a better one, let me know ; menu from 13,50€ for lunch and 19,50€ at dinner, dish of vegetables+cereals, or tapenades, soups, simple but excellent and nutritional.
Dame Tartine, 2, rue Brisemiche, M° Hotel de Ville, I like particularly the area, in front of the bassin and the sculpture of Niki de Saint Phalle, next to Beaubourg, great salads, « tartines » ; menus from 11,90€ on.
6st:
Le Rendez vous du Marche, 9, rue Labineau, M° Mabillon, you want something cheap, here you have it, starter from 3,50€, dish of the day from 7,50€ and dessert from 2,50€ on. The classics here are Herring And Potatoes in Oil, beef miroton, “tarte tatin”; you don’t like that; no worry, there are much more than these.
La creperie des canettes – Pancake square, 10, rue des canettes, M° Odeon, menu 11€
I hope these informations will of interest or am I still too expensive ?

7. Posted by lil_lil (Travel Guru 462 posts) 6y

Hostel do come at around €20-30 per person per night, but you'll also be likely to be bunking with a number of other people in the room. Private rooms may be available but they'll cost more. Be careful to check the location where the hostel is located. Sometimes those with very low prices may be at the periphery of the city (thus it's going to add on transport costs) or at areas with limited transportation options etc.

If you have about €60 per person per day, accounting for your accommodation costs, you'll have €30-40 left to spend for the day. You won't be able to do much of eating out but if you do not want to miss out on local food, I'd suggest eating out at lunch time where you can get lunch meal deals in the restaurants for €10-€12 per person. For dinner, buy things from the supermarket and cook in the hostel instead. Grocery, if you can find fresh produce market, can be bought reasonably cheap. And most of the markets would also sell ready to eat food, so that could be another alternative to eating out or cooking in.

Costs for sightseeing varies. There are some places with free entries, there are some cities where getting museum pass pays off very quickly and definitely worth getting etc. Check the TP Travel Guide or Wikitravel for information. I've recently updated info on Paris, including where the free sights are, so that may be useful to you.

Transportation can be cheap if you book in advance. Train/bus tickets can be bought 3 months ahead of travel time. For train tickets, it's best to check with the national train agencies, e.g. TGV-Europe for France, Trenitalia for Italy, Bahn.de for Germany etc. For long distances travel, look for night train so you can save on the accommodation costs for those particular nights. If you want to look for bus, check the Eurolines website.

Eurail train pass may be something you can look into getting but usually they're great only if you're constantly on the move and travel relatively long distances as well from one place to another. Even for a pass that allows 10 travel days within 2 months, it's going to cost €512 per person for the global pass, if bought as 2 or more travellers. That means an average travel cost of €51 per travelling day. If you can find train tickets cheaper than that, then the pass really doesn't make sense. Similarly, if you're doing less than 10 trips, then the average cost increases and you can calculate that accordingly. Please note that the Eurail pass cannot be used in UK. If you and your gf are both under 26, then you can get the youth pass which will then be much cheaper (€393 per person for 10 travel days in 2 months).

You won't really need to learn a new language, English is quite widely spoken. No harm knowing a few key phrases in greeting people, saying thanks, the numbers, etc. Perhaps asking if someone speaks English. That's about all you'll need really.

If you have more specific question though, drop me a line and I'll try to help the best I can.

8. Posted by lil_lil (Travel Guru 462 posts) 6y

Quoting Geminilion

La Victoire Suprême du Coeur, 27, rue du Bourg-Tibourb, M° Hotel de Ville ; just the name itself is a pearl: The Supreme Victory of the Heart ; if you find a better one, let me know ; menu from 13,50€ for lunch and 19,50€ at dinner, dish of vegetables+cereals, or tapenades, soups, simple but excellent and nutritional.

This place has shut down.

9. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

Anyway we're not wanting to spend up big but we dont want to stay in crappy accommodation and eat noodles every day and night. We are looking at getting around with public transport and maybe hiring a car for a few days in Switzerland.

So my question is what would people budget as a minimum for accommodation and food. Im only wanting a really rough idea. I was thinking of about AU$100 (61.8967 EUR) for me and AU$100 for my Girlfriend per day. Am i kidding myself to think we'll only need that much? This is without spending money.

A budget that low pretty much means eating noodles every second day or so and staying in the cheapest places. Not necessarily crappy places, but not places where you can have a double room with an ensuite bathroom for yourself.

You'll need to stay in hostels, sleeping in dorms. You'll need to buy all your food from the supermarket. You'll be eating lots of sandwhiches, rice, noodles and veggies, stuff that you prepared yourself in the hostel kitchen.

Transport will eat a lot of your budget, you seem to move around a lot. I recommend that you take a closer look at what you'll be spending in this department. Especially hiring the car won't be cheap, AFAIK daily rates start at around 90 Swiss Franc which is about equal to 100 AUD.

10. Posted by mpprh (Full Member 114 posts) 6y

Note that you are only allowed 3 months in EU each 6 months on a regular tourist visa.

Check out the most recent notes on Schengen visas here : -snip-

Peter

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