Next summer (June, July) I want to spend a month and a half on Java and travel around the island. My main goal is to see all the big cities and transport myself by train. I've never been to Asia before and I was wondering what other people had as their daily budget. I was especially curious about the average price of places to spend the night.
I don't want to sleep in fancy hotels, a hostel would do fine. Does anyone have experience with hostels on Java? If so, please do react!
Thanks a lot!
First of all, about six weeks for Java alone seems a bit too long for me... On six weeks you can easily combine Java, Bali and Lombok, without rushing through!
About the expenses, Indonesia is one of those countries where it is hard to get rid of your money, it's so cheap when you eat local, sleep in guesthouses and travel with public transport (at least when we were there two years ago!).
By the way, the train ride Yogyakarta - Bandung - Jakarta is awesome, especially the first stretch!
Hi, thanks for your response!
I myself don't think it's too long, because I really want to experience Java. Both my grandparents grew up over there and I'd like to see as much as I can. So I don't especially have to go to Bali and Lombok as well, maybe another time.
Can you maybe give me an amount indication about what's cheap?
And did you do your trainride in the ekonomi or in the bisnis kelas? I've heard the air conditioning in the bisnis is too cold.
We took the train in bisnis, the airco was ok, we even didn't needed a jumper...
The stretch from Yogja to Bandung was 80.000 Rp, Bandung - Jakarta was 30.000 Rp.
One big bottle Bintang 18.000 Rp, 1 roll of toiletpaper 2.000 Rp, a plate of nasi goreng 7.000 - 12.000 Rp, one hour internet 4.000 - 6.000 Rp, ...
Our basic guesthouse in Yogja 25.000 Rp, Bandung 50.000 Rp, Jakarta 90.000 Rp, Cemara Lawang (Bromo) a dirty room for 50.000 Rp and an overrated one for 150.000 (!) Rp
I have to agree with you- 6 weeks in Java is not a long time at all. There is so much to see and do there and spend time with the local people.
In 2006 I spent 34 days travelling in West, Central and East Java and could have easily stayed on for another 8 days.
And I had already been to West and Central Java before.
In regards to the trains there is no air con in bisnis class train.
I think you are confused with eskutif class or first class which does have very cold air con.
Bisnis class is a nice comfortable trip- big seats plenty of leg room, good size windows to see the magnificent scenery of Java. And bisnis so much better than economy,
I have personally travelled bisnis from Bandung to Yogjakarta, Yogjakarta to Surabaya, Surabaya to Probolinggo, Jember to Surabaya, and Surabaya to Jakarta.
Thought you might like to read a recent set of posts on Lonely Planet Thorn Tree Indonesia forum on travelling in East Java.
I also have some lovely friends in West Java in Cianjur who have a homestay programme for travellers.
They are in LP South East Asia on a Shoestring and in Jan 2010 will be in the new LP Indonesia book.
Here is a simple website made for Yudi Sujana for travellers to see what is available in Cianjur.
That's way on my pictures I don't wear a jumper on the train, there's no airco, I was already in doubt...
But I have to agree, bisnis is very comfortable with soft seats, big windows and not crowded at all!
I travelled in economy class on the train in Java and it was very uncomfortable at times so I would recommend paying a little bit extra to sit in the aircon carriage. We went to stand in there for short periods just to cool down but it wasn't too cold like some aircon on public transport in Asia.
I agree with Yvekes that 6 weeks is too long in Java; 3 weeks is easily enough to see the highlights without rushing. I would highly recommend spending some time in Bali too as it's beautiful, and that way you get to experience Hindu culture as well as Muslim.
In regards to bisnis class with no air con, but very comfortable from my personal experiences it is always best to book your seat the day before.
I can tell you from personal experience that a 3 hr train trip from Bandung to Jakarta in 2008 ( my friend booked for me and I did not realize he had booked air con) the air con was absolutley freezing.
I was so pleased I could use the shawl my friend had given me as a gift.
Most of the time the train is completely booked out. Have experienced this on the bisnis train from Surabaya to Probolinggo when I almost missed out on a seat because I did not pre book.
In the past all my Indonesian friends have insisted I book the day before.
Have tried to give you the link to the train schedules in Indonesia but it does not seem to be working at this time.
[ Edit: Edited on 23-Dec-2009, at 11:58 by pPamela ]
I also did book my seat in advance (you have to check out the timetable anyway, so you can book your ticket already...). But on both occasions we sat with three in the whole carriage...
How lucky were you to have such an empty carriage!