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51. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

Thank you for the suggestion. Do you all think it is worth to take a day trip from Rome to Pompeii? There are some local tour companies doing that.

Pompeii is very easy to get to by train. No need to take a tour. Hop on the ES to Naples and change to the local Circumvesiana train to Pompeii Scavi. You'll get off directly at the entrance.

http://www.thecolefamily.com/Italy/Pompeii/trip.htm

Note that there are two exits for the Pompeii ruins and two train stations, it will be best if you print out a map. Try google maps.

52. Posted by wyemarn (Budding Member 29 posts) 6y

t_maia

I have planned my itinerary and I'm sure on my day trips from Munich to Fussen and Salzburg. I can't find any English info on Freizeit-Ticket for Munich-Salzburg. Bayern ticket is valid only from 9am so if I use Bayern ticket, I have to start my journey to Salzburg after 9am and will reach there only noon. I plan to stay my journey early so I'm considering Freizeit-Ticket. It seems that this ticket is available for ES trains only. Can I use public transports in Salzburg with this ticket?

For Fussen I plan to use Bayern ticket. Is there any other special discount ticket for Munich-Fussen? Is it possible to ride the train before 9am(eg 8:52am) with bayern ticket?

53. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

I plan to stay my journey early so I'm considering Freizeit-Ticket. It seems that this ticket is available for ES trains only. Can I use public transports in Salzburg with this ticket?

Yes, you can use only IC and EC trains with this ticket. But this is no big deal, trains run every 2 hours. This ticket was developed specifically so that day-trippers to Salzburg had an alternative to using the Bayern-Ticket. No need to for the slow RE/RB trains. The price for the Freizeit-Ticket is higher, you pay extra for the use of the IC/EC trains and the fact that you can go before 9 am.

Looking at the conditions it seems to be that they changed the rules - public transport in Salzburg used to be included, now I see no mentioning of this feat.

So no, you cannot use buses in Salzburg with this ticket. But most of Salzburg is small, you can walk everywhere.

Is it possible to ride the train before 9am(eg 8:52am) with bayern ticket?

Yes, with a trick, you pay extra for the first stops before 9 am.

The train goes:

RE 32604
München Hbf Gl.27-36 08:52
München-Pasing 08:59
Geltendorf 09:22
Kaufering 09:31
...
Füssen 10:55

I recommend that you buy a seperate ticket München Hbf to München-Aubing. München-Aubing is an S-Bahn stop behind München-Pasing. The train to Füssen does not stop at Aubing, but having the ticket to Aubing will cover you until 9 am.

If the conductor comes around hand over the Bayern-Ticket, the seperate ticket to Aubing and show your biggest smile. Put on your best "I am only a dumb foreigner who doesn't know the rules"-face. Don't react to German, don't react to English, just chatter in Japanese how nice Germany is and mention Füssen frequently. .

The seperate ticket for München Hbf to München-Aubing is 2,40 €. Buy at an MVV vending maschine. If you have a day ticket for public transport in Munich for the inner zone you do not need to buy a seperate ticket.

54. Posted by wyemarn (Budding Member 29 posts) 6y

Quoting t_maia

I plan to stay my journey early so I'm considering Freizeit-Ticket. It seems that this ticket is available for ES trains only. Can I use public transports in Salzburg with this ticket?

Yes, you can use only IC and EC trains with this ticket. But this is no big deal, trains run every 2 hours. This ticket was developed specifically so that day-trippers to Salzburg had an alternative to using the Bayern-Ticket. No need to for the slow RE/RB trains. The price for the Freizeit-Ticket is higher, you pay extra for the use of the IC/EC trains and the fact that you can go before 9 am.

Looking at the conditions it seems to be that they changed the rules - public transport in Salzburg used to be included, now I see no mentioning of this feat.

So no, you cannot use buses in Salzburg with this ticket. But most of Salzburg is small, you can walk everywhere.

Is it possible to ride the train before 9am(eg 8:52am) with bayern ticket?

Yes, with a trick, you pay extra for the first stops before 9 am.

The train goes:

RE 32604
München Hbf Gl.27-36 08:52
München-Pasing 08:59
Geltendorf 09:22
Kaufering 09:31
...
Füssen 10:55

I recommend that you buy a seperate ticket München Hbf to München-Aubing. München-Aubing is an S-Bahn stop behind München-Pasing. The train to Füssen does not stop at Aubing, but having the ticket to Aubing will cover you until 9 am.

If the conductor comes around hand over the Bayern-Ticket, the seperate ticket to Aubing and show your biggest smile. Put on your best "I am only a dumb foreigner who doesn't know the rules"-face. Don't react to German, don't react to English, just chatter in Japanese how nice Germany is and mention Füssen frequently. .

The seperate ticket for München Hbf to München-Aubing is 2,40 €. Buy at an MVV vending maschine. If you have a day ticket for public transport in Munich for the inner zone you do not need to buy a seperate ticket.

Thank you so much for the excellent trick

Maybe I'll just get Bayern Ticket and board the train, pretend to speak only Japanese.;)

For Salzburg, I found out the earliest EC train is 8:27 and the earliest RE train which can be used with Bayern-ticket is 9:42. There is another RE train which starts at 8:48, can I use the same trick by getting ticket to the stop before 9am and then use Bayern ticket? The price difference between Bayern ticket and Freizeit-Ticket is only 10euro and the difference of journey time for EC and RE is only 20 minutes. Do you think it's worth paying extra 10 euros for the arrival time difference(1 to 2 hours)?

55. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

There is another RE train which starts at 8:48, can I use the same trick by getting ticket to the stop before 9am and then use Bayern ticket?

Yes you can. But it doesn't make a lot of sense since the ticket you'd need to buy for this trick is 7,20 € when you go to Salzburg. (You'd need to buy the ticket to Grafing.)

I recommend shelling out 2,80 EUR more for taking the EC train both ways.

[ Edit: Edited on 21-Feb-2010, at 20:26 by t_maia ]

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