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1. Posted by Fledgey (Budding Member 2 posts) 4y

I had this beautiful picture in my mind in which I'd save up some money to go off to Europe and find a job and work in a country, and then move to a different country and work and do that for a number of years. This was sophomore year in high school I came up with this plan. Before I found out about all of the ridiculous hoops one has to jump through to be able to simply work a shit job somewhere. So I ask you: What route does a high school graduate have to take (other than student programs!!!) to be able to accomplish something like this. I'm not against being paid under the table, since that's most likely what I'll have to do, but how easy is it to find a situation like that? What permits would I need to live in a place like France, and work regular shitty temp jobs to my heart's content. Is it even possible?

I'm from Colorado, USA, by the way. No college experience, decent GPA. I'd like to travel for a number of years.

[ Edit: Edited on 14-Jan-2010, at 18:39 by Fledgey ]

2. Posted by dnicholson (Full Member 146 posts) 4y

Well, how about finishing college? Although there are tons of jobs out there that can make you survive like being a waiter or a farm land hand or something, the competition for those position is still tough. specially in foreign places. Those places where there could be a language gap. of course an employer would choose someone whom he can have a conversation with easily. but, if it is that you want, then get visa first to the place that you desire. there are a lot of online job sites that you can use as well to locate jobs that you desire.

3. Posted by Fledgey (Budding Member 2 posts) 4y

College definitely isn't right for me. It just feels like a waste of life. I'm an advocate of living life to the fullest.

4. Posted by elliottk (Inactive 40 posts) 4y

Quoting Fledgey

College definitely isn't right for me. It just feels like a waste of life. I'm an advocate of living life to the fullest.

I can't help with the logistics but if college doesn't feel right for you now, it's probably best to focus on other things. College degrees can open some doors, but they are also to the point now (at least in the U.S.) where the cost/benefit doesn't really pan out, especially with the cost of student loans. If you ever find yourself needing a degree just to get that credential for something (teaching English abroad, a common way people use to travel the world often requires one), then I'd suggest doing it as cheaply as possible such as going to community college and then a state school somewhere you can get in state tuition. Work the distance ed angle and you might be able to travel simultaneously. This all may be moot given your comment above, but just a few thoughts from a fellow who went through several years of college himself before going directly into a white-collar office job.

5. Posted by lil_lil (Travel Guru 462 posts) 4y

There's no easy way of moving to live long term in Europe and work as you go along, without the required permits and visa. Most long term residency visa are issued at the premise of possession of work permit or student visa, unless you have an European spouse or family in Europe, by which then you'll be looking for spousal visa or a visa to rejoin your family.

Sure, there are people who just travel in under visa waiver programme, then disappeared off the radar and work under the table. Effectively, these are illegal immigrants and if you're caught, the consequences are severe. Lately in France, they're working at cracking down on illegal immigrations, with very little sympathy for whatever circumstances causing these people to live there illegally.

I don't think anyone would be happy to live and work shitty jobs and get paid under the table. You're opening yourself to exploitation without little rights and entitlements, and any small clash with anyone at all, the other person could easily report you to the authority. Bright idea? Errm, most likely not.

The other possibility is to track on your family tree, if you have European ancestry. Well, of the countries in the EU. Several of them welcome citizenship application from direct descendants of their citizens, and when this is approved, you can then legally live and work in the EU without requiring additional work visa, although you'll probably be required to registered with the authorities so that they know you're living in the area, and you can then be eligible for local social welfare, the rights to vote etc.

6. Posted by t_maia (Moderator 3291 posts) 4y

The closest you'll be able to get to your dream without breaking the rules will be WWOOF and HelpX. Work in exchange for food and board. It is a legal grey area in some European countries and legal in others. Max. amount of time that you'll be allowed to stay inside the Schengen Area is 90 days, but with a bit of organising, moving around and some decent chunk of cash you should be able to go for up to a year. And well, maybe you find yourself a nice EU citizen to marry during that time?

[ Edit: Edited on 16-Jan-2010, at 12:52 by t_maia ]

7. Posted by EuroAdvntr (Budding Member 9 posts) 4y

am in the exact same boat as you, but a year younger and from Canada. Tell me how it turns out.

8. Posted by Globetr7 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 4y

Hey guys! I have this exact idea as well. Difference is im a bit older: 25 and finished college a while ago. I do have several certificates besides my college degree however I think even with this it won´t be easy for me to get a legal job in Europe.

I just quit my job here in Mexico and I have the ridiculous amount of around 1800 Euros to begin my trip and of course start to look for a job immediately once Im in Europe (doesnt matter if its illegal). I would like to be in a place where French is spoken since I would like to learn the language. Among the different countries where French is the main language I became really attracted to Monaco: it seems beautiful and its close to the sea.

I want to start this adventure in December or January and sometimes I feel super brave and think everything will be just fine. I also think I should live my life to the fullest and I love travelling and meeting people with different backgrounds, get to know different cultures and ways of living is my passion. But other times I am afraid Im being too naive and that I should really plan this thing through to avoid any problems :S mainly because of the cash and how to afford doing all these traveling.

Anyway I just wanted to share this with you, I hope someone can give me some advice too :)

Have a great day everyone!

Mariana