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21. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member 459 posts) 6y

I think that it is important to know what job this poster Scott performs. - he is "the internet media strategist for Bumrungrad"

I don't appreciate comments about beanie hats.

If a manager of a hotel posts here he is hardly going to say his hotel is substandard, is he?

Scotts job is to monitor the NET and post positive things about Bumrungrad - as such he should be taken with a pinch of salt.

As with testimonials, the hospital is unlikely to post bad testimonials.
Any testimonials are by definition only the opinion of a layman, and as I have said, people are so relived to come out of a hospital that they seldom question if the treatment they had was appropriate or necessary.

This is a serious situation which could turn into a disaster for unsuspecting medical tourists - even fatal - and there is seldom any comeback

Here is a further example of a scandle involving the Thai medical trade......

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/31291/bio-clinic-murder-suspects-acquitted

22. Posted by Peter (Admin 5813 posts) 6y

I don't think Scott has really hidden anything. He stated he works for them. So it's clear he's trying to reduce the damage from negative comments towards them. Any sensible company would employ someone like him to monitor the internet and respond to claims about their company. Any reader of this thread likewise can make up their mind who to trust. Such is the nature of the internet.

I'll leave this last response of yours, but please don't just turn this into a tirade against Thai medical tourism. I think you've already put forward that point of view clearly enough. Time for some others to share their opinion, so the OP can get a balanced point of view.

23. Posted by bumfool (First Time Poster 1 posts) 6y

ALL I can say is Beware of having Plastic Surgery there. Had eye lift. Literally looks worse NOW than before.
Sometimes you get what you pay for!! Make sure you check out the experience and practices of the doc. The standard is NOT the same as in the "west", unfortunately. I wish i had not done it. Oh well.

24. Posted by lakegirl (Budding Member 10 posts) 6y

Thanks to the last poster for the honest report. I took all of these; positive and negative, into consideration when making my decision. There was another report online about a patient whose plastic surgery had gone terribly wrong at the same hospital.. I would say that in any plastic surgery case, you should demand the surgeon's history and outcomes before agreeing to using him/her. If they do not provide you with these, don't use that doctor. Period. No matter where they are located or what they cost. There are plenty of dicey plastic surgeons Stateside and worldwide (just look at the talkshows in the States and the number of botched surgeries that are protrayed on them). This is the perfect example of the need for the patient to be their own best advocate. Just look at Kenny Rogers, who doesn't even look like Kenny Rogers anymore!

25. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member 459 posts) 6y

All countries make mistakes....BUT the difference in Thailand is that you will find you have virtually no recourse for any kind of comeback - e.g. - if they cock it up in the States the resulting litigation would be enormous.

Thailand simply doesn't have the enforcement checks and balances of other countries and this includes supervision and monitoring by independent bodies to ensure that doctors and other medical staff are in fact using appropriate practices and procedures.

26. Posted by Curt1591 (Respected Member 230 posts) 6y

Quoting wildfk

All countries make mistakes....BUT the difference in Thailand is that you will find you have virtually no recourse for any kind of comeback - e.g. - if they cock it up in the States the resulting litigation would be enormous.

Thailand simply doesn't have the enforcement checks and balances of other countries and this includes supervision and monitoring by independent bodies to ensure that doctors and other medical staff are in fact using appropriate practices and procedures.

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"- if they cock it up in the States the resulting litigation would be enormous."

Herein lies the difference.

In both countries, one signs the disclaimer, basically stating the sh*t happens and that you accept that risk. In the States, it's a formality. In Thailand, it's a legal document.

In both countries, there is the concept of malpractice. Also in both countries, negligence or misconduct must be proven; it needs to be shown that treatment given was outside common practice.

The defining difference is that, in Thailand, there aren't "punitive damages" or the "big pockets" concepts. One can only sue for actual damages, and only receive damages from the guilty party.

In the States, with huge punitive damages, attorneys are looking to sue. Also, even if the hospital/doctor is only found to be a minor contributor to the situation, because they have the resources, they can be held financially responsible for the majority of any settlement.

Guilty or not, because the cost of litigation, you will find that most of these cases are settled before any court proceedings begin.

It's a great system!

27. Posted by frank_bkk (Full Member 101 posts) 6y

Very suspicious that Bumfool has just posted another very first comment on another forum regarding having had poor plastic surgery at Bumrungrad. She/he has just copied and pasted. Just trolling from one forum to the another. Wonder if its really an added pseudonym of one angry member of here with a big grudge against the hospital.

28. Posted by wildfk (Respected Member 459 posts) 6y

May I suggest you put that theory to a hospital in Thailand and see what they say.

There is every little chance of "mishap" ion a lot of procedures - most actually have the riks assesed mathematically.

incompetence or negligence is a different matter.

29. Posted by Curt1591 (Respected Member 230 posts) 6y

Quoting wildfk

May I suggest you put that theory to a hospital in Thailand and see what they say.

There is every little chance of "mishap" ion a lot of procedures - most actually have the riks assesed mathematically.

incompetence or negligence is a different matter.

I believe I will have to rethink my position after you put that way!

[ Edit: Edited on 07-Mar-2010, at 23:00 by Curt1591 ]

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