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1. Posted by Hanky96 (Budding Member 6 posts) 6y

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Hey there.

Im looking at flying out from England (I have a UK passport) to San Francisco in about a months time and then travelling from there up to Canada (Vancouver) overland. Ill only be spending a few weeks in the USA on my way up to Canada. Im looking at staying in Canada the full 6 months now i know you can only spend 3 months in USA so will i be able to travel to America with a return flight in 6 months (back from san fran). Ill only be in the USA at MAX one month, will this be a problem for me or not?

Any help at all will be much appreciated.

Thanks!

2. Posted by jambo101 (Respected Member 414 posts) 6y

When entering the USA If traveling as a tourist and telling them you've never been in trouble with the law when they ask i cant see a problem,,When they ask where are you going? you might want to make up an itinerary as they can get very suspicious of people who have no set destinations,and make sure you have a reasonable amount of money to cover your stay as they may ask you how much money you have.

3. Posted by Hanky96 (Budding Member 6 posts) 6y

The only thing is I wont have any proof that im going up to canada for the majority of the 6 months so Im not sure they'll just take my word for it. All i will have is a return flight from san francisco in 6 months time, how could i prove that i wont be in America for over the allowed 3 months?

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4834 posts) 6y

This actually will be a problem. If you fly into the USA, you must also fly out of the USA, rather than leaving through a land border. (Time you'd spend in Canada or Mexico when going there through a land border would for the visa waiver program count as time part of the 90 days you're allowed in the USA (yeah, I know, crazy), so with your current plan, they'd think you'd mean to seriously overstay your time, and wouldn't be allowed in.)
I'd go and book an extra return ticket from the USA to Canada (could be as short a hop as Seattle-Vancouver, or whichever cheap flight you can find).

Also, can you actually stay in Canada for more than three months without getting some kind of visa? I thought they had the same three month maximum for regular visitors as most countries have...? never mind: I see you can indeed stay in Canada for six months.

[ Edit: Edited on 15-May-2010, at 04:00 by Sander ]

5. Posted by Hanky96 (Budding Member 6 posts) 6y

Thanks a lot for that. I know it's such a pain but i guess it's their rules. The cheapest flight I can find from Seattle to Vancouver is £106 which is quite a lot for a 45 min flight. I might just have to fly straight into Vancouver and miss out on all the things i wanted to see on my way up from San Fran :(

6. Posted by Hanky96 (Budding Member 6 posts) 6y

Is it possible to extend my visa for a 6 month stay in USA for purely travelling purposes or is that out of the question?

7. Posted by lagosmm (Budding Member 50 posts) 6y

Sander, you are somewhat mistaken.
The time you spend in Canada counts as USA if you do not surrender your I-94W.

To the opening poster, you can do this but MAKE SURE you give your green I-94W or white I-94 departure slip that would be stapled to your passport.
You must give this to the CANADIAN official, and he/she will not ask for it. So do remember that - otherwise you'll have to go to USA again and return it on the way back.

Now for the 6 months/ 3 months issue may cause you grief at your european departure airport. I used to have this problem as I studied in Vancouver. You could consider a US Visa for 10 years.

My advice is to buy a refundable ticket from San Francisco to Vancouver so you comply with regulation so that you can board your airplane.
When they ask for your return ticket show them your ticket to Canada.
You can cancel and refund it once you entered USA.
Don't lie, just tell the whole truth there is nothing wrong about it, the extra ticket is only to comply with the rules DHS gives the airlines.

You will get a new I-94W next time you enter USA that is valid for 90 days. It will cost you $6 when you enter by land.

8. Posted by lagosmm (Budding Member 50 posts) 6y

Quoting Hanky96

Thanks a lot for that. I know it's such a pain but i guess it's their rules. The cheapest flight I can find from Seattle to Vancouver is £106 which is quite a lot for a 45 min flight. I might just have to fly straight into Vancouver and miss out on all the things i wanted to see on my way up from San Fran :(

Get a refundable one so you can cancel it and cross via land. Just again - make sure you surrender your I-94W to a Canadian official.

9. Posted by Hanky96 (Budding Member 6 posts) 6y

Hey guys, thanks for all the advice really appriacate it. Ive decided on flying straight to Vancouver to stop all the hassle. I have bought a return as well for the end of October.

Just one last thing, my cousin is flying out to LA for a month at the start of September to see California. Would i be able to just get a coach from Vancouver to LA to see him for a few weeks? Would i just get a 3 month visa stamp once i cross the boarder or do i need to fill out an ESTA like i would if i was flying in. Any feedback would be great.

Thanks once again.

10. Posted by lagosmm (Budding Member 50 posts) 6y

1. Yes, you can take the coach from Vancouver to LA - keep in mind that there will be transfers

2. Remember to surrender your 1-94W (paper slip) when leaving the USA to the Canadian official at the Canadian border (or airline if you fly) on your return trip. This slip will cost $6.00 upon arrival.

3. You need an ESTA if you are traveling visa-free to the US regardless of how you enter. It's good for 5 years.