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1. Posted by louthmedia (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

my self and my partner are doing a round the world trip in two years time as it take time to get everything ready we will take in 7 continents 90 countries 289 city's towns and villages along with 45 national parks the trip will take 3 years to complete and cover 234,350 miles

my question is what sort of kit dose one take on a trip like this as far as the transport goes i will be using 2 Land Rover 110 300tdi as the 130 has to much overhang we will also take a small trailer. each Land Rover will have a roof tent (but not sure which to go for) we will also make sure each Land Rover has 4 spare wheels with 33/1250/15 KUMO TYRES

when i mean kit i mean down to the last nut and bolt lol

we would like to fill the other land rover with two more people if your interested then please do let me know

the route we will take is below i hope i have given enough information

louth england
plymouth england
Roscoff, France
Paris France
Brussels Belguim
Rotterdam The Netherlands
Amsterdam The Netherlands
Kessel Germany
Hanover, Germany
Lubeck, Germany
Flensburg, Germany
Arhus, Denmark
Helsingborg, Sweden
Stockholm, Sweden
Oslo, Norway
Bergen, Norway
Trondheim, Norway
Ostersund, Sweden
Luleå Airport, Sweden
Rovaniemi, Finland
Oulu, Finland
Turku, Finland
Tallinn, Harjumaa, Estonia
Riga, Latvia
Kaunas, Lithuania
Gdansk, Poland
Warszawa, Polska
Czestochowa, Poland
Brno, Czech Republic
Zlin, Czech Republic
Bratislava, Slovakia
Presov, Slovakia
L'viv, L'vivs'ka, Ukraine
Rivne, Rivnens'ka, Ukraine
Zhlobin, Gomel Province, Belarus
Orsha, Vitebsk province, Belarus
Gomel, Gomel Province, Belarus
Kiev, Kyiv, Ukraine
Kharkov, Kharkivs'ka, Ukraine
Russian Federation, Belgorodskaya oblast, Belgorod
Russian Federation, Orlovskaya oblast, Orel
Russian Federation, Kaluzhskaya oblast, Kaluga
Russian Federation, Moscow
Russian Federation, Province of Samara, Samara
Russian Federation, Province of Novosibirsk, Orsk
aquobe kazakstan
Karaganda, Karagandy, Kazakhstan
Shymkent, South Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan
Buxoro, Uzbekistan
Samarqand, Uzbekistan
Kulob, Khatlon, Tajikistan
Pugus, Region of Republican Subordination, Tajikistan
Isfara, Sughd, Tajikistan
Osh, Oshskaya, Kyrgyzstan
Kara Balta, Chuyskaya, Kyrgyzstan
Kizilsu Kirghiz Autonomous Prefecture, Xinjiang, China
Mingora, North-West Frontier Province, Pakistan
Lahore, Punjab, Pakistan
Amritsar, Punjab, India
Pali, Rajasthan, India
Rajkot, Gujarat, India
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
Goa, India
Bengaluru, Karnataka, India
Mahabalipuram, Tamil Nadu, India
Chirala, Andhra Pradesh, India
Visakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh, India
Madhubani, Bihar, India
Dhangarhi, Seti, Nepal
Kathmandu, Bagmati, Nepal
Paro Taktsang, Paro, Bhutan
Phuentsholing, Bhutan
Rangpur, Rajshahi Division, Bangladesh
Dhaka, Dhaka Division, Bangladesh
Bandarban, Chittagong Division, Bangladesh
Ukhia, Chittagong Division, Bangladesh
Kathapa-Anauk, Mon, Myanmar
Chauk, Magway, Myanmar
Meiktila Lake, Meiktila, Mandalay, Myanmar
Bago, Myanmar
Yangon, Myanmar
Kathapa-Anauk, Mon, Myanmar
Mawlamyine, Mon, Myanmar
Ye, Mon, Myanmar
Chumphon Thailand
Surat Thani Thailand
Phatthalung Thailand
Yala Thailand
Selangor Malaysia
Selangor Malaysia
Johor Malaysia
Singtel Singapore
Kuantan, Pahang Malaysia
Kota Bharu, Kelantan Malaysia
Pattani Thailand
Songkhla Thailand
Phetchaburi Thailand
Chon Buri Thailand
Koh Kong, Cambodia
Battambang, Bat Dambang, Cambodia
Kratie, Cambodia
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Nha Trang, Khanh Hoa, Vietnam
Tam Ky, Quang Nam, Vietnam
Ban Sabai Bungalow, Vang Vieng, Laos
Sop Keng, Louangphabang, Laos
Hai Phong, Vietnam
Cẩm Phả District, Quang Ninh, Vietnam
Móng Cái, Quang Ninh, Vietnam
Beihai, Guangxi, China
Zhanjiang, Guangdong, China
Maoming, Guangdong, China
Yangjiang, Guangdong, China
Guangzhou, Guangdong, China
Fuzhou, Jiangxi, China
Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China
Ningbo, Zhejiang, China
Shanghai, China
Beijing, China
Hohhot, Nei Mongol, China
Darhan, Hentiy, Mongolia
Nalayh, Tov, Mongolia
Darkhan, Selenge, Mongolia
Russian Federation, Republic of Buryatia, Kyakhta
Russian Federation, Chitinskaya oblast, Khilok
Rossiya, Chitinskaya oblast', Mogzon
Rossiya, Chitinskaya oblast', Chernyshevsk
Rossiya, Chitinskaya oblast', Amazar
Russian Federation, Province of Magadan, Magadan
Russian Federation, Kamchatskaya oblast, Klyuchi
Anchorage, AK, United States
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
Everett, WA, United States
Washington, DC, United States
Los Angeles, CA, United States
Phoenix, AZ, United States
Dallas, TX, United States
Nuevo Laredo, Mexico
Mexico City, Mexico
Villahermosa, Mexico
Huehuetenango, Guatemala
Jalapa, Guatemala
Chiquimula, Guatemala
San Pedro Sula, Cortes, Honduras
La Ceiba, Atlantida, Honduras
Danlí, El Paraiso, Honduras
Ocotal, Nueva Segovia, Nicaragua
Managua, Nicaragua
Rivas, Nicaragua
Liberia, Guanacaste, Costa Rica
Santo Domingo, Alajuela, Costa Rica
David, Chiriqui, Panama
Santiago, Veraguas, Panama
Panama City, Panama
Yaviza Panama
Chigorodó, Antioquia, Colombia
El Bagre, Antioquia, Colombia
El Banco, Cordoba, Colombia
Valledupar, Cesar, Colombia
Maracaibo, Zulia, Venezuela
Barquisimeto, Lara, Venezuela
Calabozo, Guarico, Venezuela
San Fernando, Apure, Venezuela
Ciudad Bolívar, Bolivar, Venezuela
Mabaruma, Barima-Waini, Guyana
Anna Regina, Pomeroon-Supenaam, Guyana
Georgetown, Demerara-Mahaica, Guyana
Paramaribo, Suriname
Cayenne, French Guiana
Macapá - Amapá, Brazil
Oriximiná - Para, Brazil
Manaus - Amazonas, Brazil
Roraima, Brazil
Rio Branco - Acre, Brazil
Iquitos, Loreto, Peru
Quito, Pichincha, Ecuador
Guayaquil, Guayas, Ecuador
Tumbes, Peru
Chimbote, Ancash, Peru
Cuzco, Cusco, Peru
La Paz, Bolivia
Trinidad, Beni, Bolivia
Potosi, Bolivia
Yacuíba, Tarija, Argentina
Colonia Santa Rosa, Salta, Argentina
Humahuaca, Jujuy, Argentina
Calama, Chile
Antofagasta, Chile
Copiapó, Chile
Los Andes, Chile
Mendoza, Argentina
San Luis, Argentina
Río Cuarto, Cordoba, Argentina
Parana, Entre Rios, Argentina
Colón, Lavalleja, Uruguay
Montevideo, Uruguay
Mercedes, Soriano, Uruguay
Gualeguaychú, Entre Rios, Argentina
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Wellington, New Zealand
Auckland, New Zealand
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Streaky Bay, South Australia, Australia
Alice Springs, Northern Territory, Australia
Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
Palu, Sulawesi Tengah, Indonesia
Balikpapan, Kalimantan Timur, Indonesia
Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
Medan, Sumatera Utara, Indonesia
Toamasina, Madagascar
Toliara, Madagascar
Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa
Gaborone, South-East, Botswana
Maun, North-West, Botswana
Bulawayo, Zimbabwe
Beira, Sofala, Mozambique
Lusaka, Zambia
Luanda, Angola
Boma, Congo Central, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Tshikapa, Kasai-Occidental, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kalemie, Katanga, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Goma, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Nyanza, South, Rwanda
Butare, South, Rwanda
Kiremba, Ngozi, Burundi
Rumonge, Bururi, Burundi
Runazi, Kagera, Tanzania
Kamachumu, Kagera, Tanzania
Masaka, Uganda
Kampala, Uganda
Ngora, Uganda
Eldoret, Rift Valley, Kenya
Wajir, North Eastern, Kenya
Baydabo, Somalia
Hawzen, Tigray, Ethiopia
Gondar, Amhara, Ethiopia
Aroma Sudan
El Obeid, Shamal Kurdufan, Sudan
Guéréda, Wadi Fira, Chad
Faya, Guera, Chad
Sarh, Moyen-Chari, Chad
Tessaoua, Maradi, Niger
Arlit Airport, Niger
Awbari, Libya
Tubruq, Libya
Alexandria, Al Iskandariyah, Egypt
Cairo, Egypt
Suez Canal, Ismailia, Egypt
Jerusalem, Israel
Fnaidek, North Governorate, Lebanon
Aleppo, Aleppo Governorate, Syria
Antalya, Turkey
Kozan, Turkey
Konya, Turkey
Istanbul, Turkey
Burgas, Bulgaria
Haskovo, Bulgaria
Thessaloniki, Greece
Athens, Greece
Sarandë, Albania
Tiranë, Albania
Nis, Central Serbia
Cacak, Central Serbia
Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bihac, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Sisak, Croatia
Zagreb, Croatia
Ljubljana, Slovenia
Trieste, Italy
Bolzano, Italy
Salzburg, Austria
Innsbruck, Austria
Domizil, Kaprun, Austria
Zurich, Switzerland
Belfort, France
Orleans, France
Caen, France
Calais, France
London, United Kingdom
Norwich, Norfolk NR11 6NF, UK
Louth, Lincolnshire LN11 8AL, UK

i look forward to hearing from you all

2. Posted by madpoet (Respected Member 413 posts) 6y

Wow! That really is an RTW! I'm not sure about your kit, but you'll definitely have to take 4 seasons worth of clothes, for all those different climates.

You might have a few hurdles:

I noticed you are planning to cross Myanmar by land. I don't think there are any land borders in Myanmar which are open to tourists, actually.

A lot of places have restrictions on bringing a vehicle into/our of their country, or driving it while you are there. Visas and red tape are going to be a major hassle for you, and might cause days, weeks or even months of delays.

The road to Magadan is called the "Road of Bones" for a reason. It's nearly impassable, even in a land rover, with many bridges washed away each year (see the documentary "The Long Way Around"). Then you have to transport your land rovers to Alaska by air (not cheap!)

Again, at the Darien Gap (between Panama and Colombia) there are no roads, so you will have to put your land rovers on a boat or plane.

I assume you are not transporting your land rovers from South America to New Zealand, then Australia, then Indonesia, then Madagascar, then the African mainland? (All of which would require air or sea transport, costing thousands of pounds each time)

This is really a dream trip. I hope you can do it... have fun!

3. Posted by louthmedia (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

all the shipping cost have been calculated. as to the boarder crossing with Myanmar we have spoken to the embassy in London and we been assured there will be on problem crossing into and out of the country as long as we agree to having millatry escort have a look at my other tread where i'm selling the seat http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=71214

4. Posted by fabyomama (Respected Member 560 posts) 6y

How are you getting through to Magadan then, and Kamchatskaya? Just curious.

Epic trip btw.

[ Edit: Edited on 11-Jun-2010, at 18:58 by fabyomama ]

5. Posted by louthmedia (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

although there maybe no roads with the land rover there winches and team work take a look at one or two of these videos on you tube. as i my self am an ex Royal Marines commando and have had the opportunity to drive in some of the world worst countries for example Afghanistan & Iraq

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IngZdOr5YVw

the reason i have put this video for you two look at is that the land rover are much tougher then you would think. there is not mush that will stop the land rover.

the trip is not ment to be easy. if we were trying to make the trip easy then we would make sure that all the route we took would had paved roads. however we wonted to do something the would challenge both our mind and bodies. also when the trip become tough then we will have to work as a team which will in turn bring the team closer together.

I'm sure with determination team work on only will the trip be a successful but it will also be fun. i have called the trip and adventure for nothing

each challenge we meet on the road weather its a small one like what to eat that evening or a large one like how are we going to cross this river will like i said make the team bond together and make us a strong team but it will make the individual person a stronger person within them selves

there will be times when there will be tears, arguments, difference of opinion's and tears of joy when we have complete a challenging day. there will time day when our body and minds are telling us you can't do this but not only as a person but also as a team we will push past them together. i'm sure that each member of the team when trip and adventure has finished not only will they feel the sence of achievement but will have a differant outlook on life.

6. Posted by Ofelia (Respected Member 142 posts) 6y

The trip sounds very exciting...there are just a few logistical problems which I'm not sure you're aware of..?

You cannot go to Jerusalem in Israel and then cross over to Syria. Syria will not let you in with an israeli stamp, even if you enter from Jordan.
I was looking at getting a visa to Angola, and was told you can only apply for it in whichever country you are a resident in. So if you're from the UK, you need to get your Angolan visa in the UK, and if Africa is your last leg, it might run out of validity by the time you reach Angola.
Also, getting around DRC is very hard- it's mainly jungle and not safe. Getting to Goma would almost certainly mean flying, as roads are non-existant.

Otherwise, I must say I'm very jealous...!

7. Posted by fabyomama (Respected Member 560 posts) 6y

Maybe other ex-services could be interested in this - from outside the UK even? Could attract sponsership.

Sorry - don't mean to interfere, but I'm a meddling bugger. ;)

8. Posted by louthmedia (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

please dont think your a meddler fabyomama as the information your giving is very helpful i have try advertising's the seat in all the travel forums but they have take them of i have set up a yahoo group for those who which to keep up to date with how thing are going which at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/world-at-your-wheels/

please do join to show your support

i am also in the process of building a web site where anyone can leave the there email in return for a mouthy news letter