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1. Posted by Earthstone (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

I'm doing my electives in Netherlands for 5 weeks (fr 16th Aug) and I have 2 weeks (25th sept to 9th oct) to travel around Europe. I'm planning to try see most of western Europe in 14 days if possible (still negotiating for more days for backpacking). Backpacking in a group of 3 girls. And this is a very rough itenerary.

Amsterdam (starting point of course)
1-Berlin (doing Germany first because Oktoberfest ends 3rd oct)
1-Rhine valley or Romantic Road (is it too out of the way to start in Berlin)
2-Munich
1-Venice
1- Tuscany (Florence and maybe Pisa)
2- Rome
1- Loire valley, France (international garden festival in Chaumont - can't decide chaumont or Versailles since there are beautiful castles in both
3- Paris
2- London (if there's time take a trip to Cambridge, maybe Salisbury)
2-Edinburgh
then fly back to Amsterdam

we plan to visit Belgium and Luxembourg during the weekends from Amsterdam.

is it ok to take a train for all and fly only from Rome to Paris and from Edinburgh to Amsterdam?

Is the order good? Because I made in way where we will take short trips at each time.

Is the eurail pass recommended. I know more research needs to be done.

I'm really travelling on a budget. Hope to get some feedback mainly on the order of the itenerary. Thanks a lot.

2. Posted by gataka (First Time Poster 1 posts) 6y

Wow, that's impressive itinerary! Looks tight a little bit there but you might enjoy the journey! I wanna back to Edinburgh!:)

3. Posted by Earthstone (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

Impressive? But yikes. I was told in another forum that I can't make it in 14 days unless I rushed through everything. I need to make sure it's feasible.

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 6y

Yeah, no way this is doable. You'll have the "if today is Tuesday, then this must be Paris" syndrome. Half those destinations would be just doable, but not more. The main thing you didn't take into account is travel time. When you're making your next itinerary, calculate a full travel day between each destination. Sometimes travel will take less time, and you'll get to enjoy an extra afternoon somewhere, but that's much better than counting on having most of a day to see a place after travelling there, and then having delays, or just being too bloody tired from the umptieth train to enjoy anything for the rest of the day.

Personally I'd drop Italy and the UK from your itinerary and spread those days out over the rest of your destinations. Or drop Germany and the UK, and fly straight to Rome to then make your way back overland.

5. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

Quoting Earthstone

1-Berlin (doing Germany first because Oktoberfest ends 3rd oct)
1-Rhine valley or Romantic Road (is it too out of the way to start in Berlin)
2-Munich
1-Venice
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Are those the travel days that you plan to have for those places?

Berlin in one day, it is impossible. And racing to the Rhine Valley the next day, how are you going to do this?

Travelling time by train from Amsterdam to Berlin is 10 hours, from Berlin back to the Rhine Valley it is another 10 hours, from the Rhine Valley to Munich is 6-7 hours.

If you are determined to do this I would recommend that you spend 3-5 days in Berlin, 2-3 days in the Rhine Valley area and 2-3 days in Munich. Accounting for travelling time I would then say that you need approx. 3 days for travelling, so that for all German destinations you are looking at at least 10-14 days in Germany alone.

6. Posted by emily_c (Budding Member 2 posts) 6y

Berlin is actually pretty far from Munich by train. I assume when you say Romantic Road you want to see the castles in Hohenschwangau? That's a whole day excursion in and of itself, so you may want to skip Berlin all together and spend more time in Munich. In my opinion, Munich has more (and prettier) sights to see. (But Berlin is, of course, still interesting historically!)

7. Posted by Earthstone (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

thanks for feedback all of you. Yes im revising my itenerary. I was told to focus on2-3 countries for the 2 weeks i have rather than rushing around. Any idea how to decide where to go for a first timer? You want to see everything but in the end you have to make practical decisions. Sigh.

Quoting emily_c

Berlin is actually pretty far from Munich by train. I assume when you say Romantic Road you want to see the castles in Hohenschwangau? That's a whole day excursion in and of itself, so you may want to skip Berlin all together and spend more time in Munich. In my opinion, Munich has more (and prettier) sights to see. (But Berlin is, of course, still interesting historically!)

oh yeah i was planning to see the oktoberfest in munich and maybe explore bavaria. Then thought of going to romantic road to yeah see the castles. I dont know, what else do you recommend in germany for a first timer? Im the type who's adventurous, loves culture, food, scenery,people,history,art,music, photography. Thats practically everything i guess. Im not going there to party though. So dont bother bout night clubs and stuff. Oh, and we're looking for cheap and free yet fun stuff.

8. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 6y

For a first timer I usually recommend Berlin (it is such a vibrant city) and the Rhine area. Many people like Bavaria, but I am not so hot on this part of Germany.

Coming from the Netherlands I would recommend visiting Cologne, the Rhine Valley, maybe Rothenburg ob der Tauber.

If you are not that big on party I recommend skipping Munich and the Octoberfest (just too many rowdy drunks) and going to Canstatter Wasen in Stuttgart instead. Less overrun with touristst with a more local feel.

Munich is rather boring (aside from Octoberfest), Salzburg (Austria) is a must, many go to Heidelberg for 1-2 days because it is close to FRA airport, ...

9. Posted by Earthstone (Budding Member 4 posts) 6y

I initially decided on France and Italy in 14 days.

And then my dad told me my budget is malaysian ringgit 5000 - which converts to 1207 euro. I don't think it would be quite enough. I need it to last for the 5 weeks we'll be in Holland.

I have other friends among my group of 5 which have limited budgets as well.

Was considering a Contiki tour or any other cheaper tour packages - any suggestions?

10. Posted by flyingbob (Inactive 842 posts) 6y

I think this is all possible, as long as you take one-way budget flights and don't travel by road. There are flights from and to all the destinations you mention.... Go for it ! !