If I was a waiter, its easier to accept a tip, because the customers just leave the money on the table inside some money jacket or whatever you call that thing where they put the receipt. But if you are a maid or a bellboy, you get the money directly like hookers do. If I had such a job, I wouldn't want to be tipped. I wouldn't tip a bar tender either, and I feel uncomfortable with bar tenders, who is always getting shots/drinkls from customers.
Tipping is considered a must in other countries especially european countries but in Vietnam, it is different. It depends on each travellers. They are happy, they will tip. They are not.they will not tip too.
We also don't talk about how much travelers have to tip. Maybe you guys can give tour guide,receptionist at hotel, bellboy..........
[quote=phuong87]Tipping is considered a must in other countries especially european countries
Oh - no its not. If the food or service isnt good - then they wont be expected to tip, nor will the staff expect to receive one. That goes for the seediest of cafes in Albania, to the 5* hotels in the West End of London.
The custom of tipping is starting to get around. I consider this a poor thing. I have heard that the word tip is actually an acronym that stands for To Insure Promptness and happened at the beginning of the meal. I've seen this kind of tipping done. I had a girlfriend from a wealthy family and the Dad took me to dinner and did this.
These days, tips are just too expected. It was designed to be a reward for good service, now it seems to be considered a requirement. That's bullshit. This goes for the US and Canada as well. We are a service based culture. Yet the quality of service we get is diminishing, in my view. Yet people still expect their 15 %.
I don't tip, as a rule. This is not say that I don't leave extra for the staff who went the extra mile. I tip those guys well. The bartender at my local who brings me a beer when mine is empty without me even noticing...he does very well. And, like my good friend Is, I'll tip the guy bussing my tables if he does a better job than the waiter. If I get a waiter who I only see to drop the menus and hand over the bill, while everyone else is running their food and drinks for them, I'll go and search out the waiter who is picking up their slack and tip them. A reward, not a requirement.
And if the service blows. I'll pay the bill right down to the penny. Not one cent extra. A reward, not a requirement.
The custom that is getting around is one where the establishment can pay less because the customer is leaving extra money. I blame the US for this. A place should pay a decent wage. A tip should be a bonus. Chile, for instance, is slowly creeping toward a policy where they put the tip on the bill and you have to pay it. Oh, I argued that vehemently a couple of times. Worse yet, they don't tell you that. So the unaware customer will actually tip twice. The service in Chile is deplorable. There are some lazy ass servers in Chile, and I think it's because they aren't working for the reward that tipping is supposed to be
Cab drivers....I'm not sure why they get tipped in the first place. If the guy is helpful about a new town I'm in, I'll give him something extra. But if it's some shmuck who drove me from one place to another while talking on his cellphone the whole way, why should he get something extra?
And maids? I consider tipping them to more bribing them not to steal shit. What the hell are we tipping maids for? Really, I'm asking
Keep it a reward.....not the other thing.
Tipping is considered a must in other countries especially european countries but in Vietnam, it is different. It depends on each travellers. They are happy, they will tip. They are not.they will not tip too. We also don't talk about how much travelers have to tip. Maybe you guys can give tour guide,receptionist at hotel, bellboy..........
Phuong - To be perfectly honest with you, one of the main reasons I come to your country so often is because of this tipping policy. To the Vietnamese, I look wealthy, but in reality I am quite poor by American standards. I really can't afford travel in my own country because of the costs involved. I must say that I did feel some guilt the last time I had a foot massage in Hanoi, and next time I promise to be more considerate.
I think there is a difference between tipping a maid and tipping a waiter. Don't get me wrong, I do not consider $10 an hour to be living well. But there is a huge difference between making $10 an hour plus the occasional tip and making the below minimum wage a waiter makes when tips are the norm and are universally considered part of their income.
Phuong - To be perfectly honest with you, one of the main reasons I come to your country so often is because of this tipping policy. To the Vietnamese, I look wealthy, but in reality I am quite poor by American standards.
Johnny, you are making it difficult for the rest of us! I had all the VN ladies thinking I was a rich American. Older, sure, balding, OK, but RICH! Now you let all them know we are old, bald and NOT rich. Thanks a bunch Johnny. Now I will have to find a VN lady who does not read TP!
Vegasmike will tell me off for throwing my money around but i always leave a tip for the maid, in SEA I leave $1 a night. I do it nightly not weekly in case the maid changes throughout the week.
In Cambodia the maid left me a thank you note each day.......bless her that was a lovely touch.
In Florida we went to one of those dinner shows, near the end of the show the maid gave everyone a printed thank you note and that we should leave $5 tip each.......what a cheek, the show and dinner (like an airplane meal) was already expensive as it was.
My daughter thought she had to pay so her and husband and three children put in $25!!! I could not beleive it, she would never have given that much in England.
It makes me cross in USA too when you are expected to tip for each drink you buy at a bar, they just ping the lid off a bottle of beer and expect a tip!
Vegasmike will tell me off for throwing my money around but i always leave a tip for the maid, in SEA I leave $1 a night.
Now Jenny, you are making us 'cheap charlies' look bad. I did let the maids do my laundry. They get the money, not the hotel.
It makes me cross in USA too when you are expected to tip for each drink you buy at a bar, they just ping the lid off a bottle of beer and expect a tip! Jenny
I made my money on tips: casino dealer and bellman, but I have to agree with you Jenny. The tipping culture is out of whack in the US, esp. Vegas. Everybody expects a tip to do their job description. You do not have to participate in this extortion. I resist at every opportunity. Yes, I know 'cheap charlie'.
If my room is dirty or not up to what I like, then instead of a tip - I'd be looking for a refund.